If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block

[Probos]

Fire Allen and Hire Bill Polian in the off season. Let polian find a new coach (Cowher would be nice). Polian knows players and would build around RG3.

This is a great idea minus hiring Cowher. I'm sick of retread players and coaches. Blow it up and find the next young, hungry head coach.

[skinsfan1993]

Shanahan has been here for 2 and a half years, give him some time. The problem is Haslett, and Kyle needs to mature as a play caller.

I'm just tired of hovering around 5 wins every year. Just sick and tired of it, even 7-9 and not basement of the NFC East would be nice. Just frustrating.

guess who hired haslett? this team seems to get worse every year with shanny at HC. maybe it is time for him to go, it's not like we'd miss him.

[Skinzfever2010]

At this point,...I can't see this team winning 1-2 more games this season. In addition to lacking talent in several areas I don't see any passion or fire whatsoever. Completely uninspired performance today.

If they only win 1-2 more games it would be hard to make a solid argument to keep the Shanahan's.

You mean we can't blame Vinny anymore?

[stevemcqueen1]

1.) People need to acknowledge that firing Shanahan would throw a big wrench in RGIII's development.

2.) The people calling for him to be fired no longer get to complain about Snyder and his knee jerk interventionism.

[SirClintonPortis]

Polian's track record isn't that spectacular, he had some very bad Colts drafts.
Shanahan is a good drafter, his track record is 10x better than Polian's.

Indeed. Indy's run defense was Swiss cheese for a long while under Polian. It's just that they ran Tampa 2 all day long to hold their pass D stats from being absolutely horrible.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

If we were going to be a 7 win team as I hoped, this was a must win. I'm sure we can steal a game here and there, but this now looks much closer to a 3 or 4 win football team.

[skins4eva]

Please tell me why I should be in the least bit optimistic?

My head coach LITERALLY JUST ADMITTED DEFEAT ON THE SEASON.

I should feel optimistic? really?

So you know how to properly run a franchise?

Well damn, get Shanahan on the phone and give him some damn pointers

He accepted defeat on the season with five, 5...5!!!! division games left. Truly unbelievable.

[nuposse87]

Started the season with a rookie QB,RB and to read what everyone posted here in August, a team full of holes.
No one expected anything past 6 maybe 7 wins.

Everyone here acknowledged the unknown at WR,RT, the secondary and the bad special teams.

Yet everyone here is upset because they got their hopes up when RG3 and Morris flashed and even had the gall to say we could be OK when both Rak and Carriker went down.

Yes Virginia, your just as impetuous as Dan and Vinny.

He's had three years to acquire depth in order to circumvent the injury excuse brought up so often by fans. He hasn't. He's failed in the personell department and failed with the pieces on the field. I will give him NO credit for RG III, RG III is the only reason to hope this team turns it around, but with a gimmicky offense that Kyle employs and a historically porous D Haslett puts out coupled in with the terrible personell choices Mike has made there is every reason to call for these three clowns heads and no reason to keep the status quot. RG III is beyond the normal "rookie" QB excuse, so please don't give crap excuses like that.

The point is, there was suppose to be progress, and there has been none, if you want to continue with the blind homerism, kudos to you, but the others calling for change aren't wrong in doing so. Your justification for keeping the shannahans in town seems baseless.

[Voice_of_Reason]

I'm worried that the team has quit on the coach. I'm not sure how you fix that without changing the coach. I'm not in favor of changing the offensive side of the ball, because I think that the Shanahans have done a pretty good job getting RGIII ready to play, and putting him in good positions, for the most part. They also found Morris, and with RGIII, Morris, and maybe a few more healthy pieces that this coachig staff put together, you have something. I really don't want to start that all over again.

Now, defensively, blow it up. All of it. Every last little bit of it. Blow it up and start over.

What's interesting is that I was saying after the 2008 season, it wasn't JC, they needed to replace 8-10 guys on the offensive side of the ball. They didn't going into 2009, and it was a disaster. In 2010, Shanahan started that process on offense, changed the entire OL RB, and WR corps in 2 years.

But they didn't go quite as all in with the defense. Now it needs a complete overhaul. Haz should not be the person in charge of it.

If they could get Payton, I'd be all for that.

Whatever. This just has me so frustrated.

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

1.) People need to acknowledge that firing Shanahan would throw a big wrench in RGIII's development.

2.) The people calling for him to be fired no longer get to complain about Snyder and his knee jerk interventionism.

Agreed. Shanahan has made mistakes, but the idiots thinking he was going to turn the team around in 3 years seem to forget that all the other "quick turnaround" coaches had VERY full cupboards. For the most part, Mike Smith, Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh and even Mike McCarthy inherited their teams. So you're really comparing Shanny's 3 years to 6-7 years of talent acquisition on the part of other teams.

The only team that's even comparable is the Lions under Schwartz, and they're well off last year's pace, and even they inherited a lot of their star players (Megatron and Avril)

[bradboyd80]

1.) People need to acknowledge that firing Shanahan would throw a big wrench in RGIII's development.

How so? I'm not saying we should fire Shanahan, but it is still early in his development. A good coach can continue his development properly without much of a dip in production. We're not talking about JC here; RG3 is much more talented. Being devil's advocate......but lets say Shanahan gets canned and we bring in Sean Payton; you mean to tell me that would be a big wrench in his development?

[D'Pablo]

We need to identify a talented personnel guy, bring him in, and give him at least as much authority as Shanahan with respect to the coaches and players. I feel as though Shanahan, the coach, frequently clashes with Shanahan, the GM. This is because the coach gets a little too attached to his players and can't be objective. We need to set up checks and balances.

[nuposse87]

1.) People need to acknowledge that firing Shanahan would throw a big wrench in RGIII's development.

2.) The people calling for him to be fired no longer get to complain about Snyder and his knee jerk interventionism.

Bull****, RG III is one year in, if there was ever a time to make a change, now is the time. There has to be clear evidence that this offense will result in wins. I want lower penalties in the 2nd half the season and real progress in the passing game. Not everything RG III does should be contingent off play action.

[ThisOneGoesTo11]

3 years and this team should be looking like Seattle imo. It just doesn't look like things are going to get better.

[brandymac27]

I don't understand why people are saying a new HC would hurt RG3's development. He already has a LOT of talent, and he's smart. He learns fast. My opinion is that we'd hurt him more keeping Shanny around if for no other reason than all they seem to be doing is holding him back!