If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block

[Drkstar]

He accepted defeat on the season with five, 5...5!!!! division games left. Truly unbelievable.

its really the height of arrogance
he is not the least worried he is gonna get blown out because he he knows he collects his contract if he does and he is managing a morbid franchise who collectively will end up taking the blame over shanny taking it solo

its a win, win for shanny to get canned actually
because, he keeps his job in 2013, this team is no better then 6-10 without the next 2 years first round pick and the salary cap penalty

[The Tris]

Started the season with a rookie QB,RB and to read what everyone posted here in August, a team full of holes.
No one expected anything past 6 maybe 7 wins.

Again, not about the number of losses. If we lose 13 games simply because we're not talented, that's one thing.

But to lose games because we are ill-prepared, plagued by penalties in all phases, and lack composure, that's another.

That doesn't have to do with holes, which no one disputes; that has to do with coaching.

Maybe he gets this figured out, but Mike Shanahan sounded like a man defeated today, at a loss for answers. Usually when that's the mindset, answers aren't going to be found by that individual, no matter how patient you are with him.

[DieselPwr44]

if you want to continue with the blind homerism, kudos to you, but the others calling for change aren't wrong in doing so. Your justification for keeping the shannahans in town seems baseless.

Joe Gibbs 2 is the only coach that this organization has allowed to have any continuity whatsoever and half the fanbase wanted him run out of town on a rail.

Let's go ahead and fire Shanny and give the next guy two years and fire him too.

Bet we'll get the same results with one exception: RG3 will bolt as soon as his contract is up to go somewhere stable.

Brilliant....

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

I don't understand why people are saying a new HC would hurt RG3's development. He already has a LOT of talent, and he's smart. He learns fast. My opinion is that we'd hurt him more keeping Shanny around if for no other reason than all they seem to be doing is holding him back!

Do you REALLY want to roll the dice with the QB we traded 2 firsts for? Really? Sure, it could work out just fine, and hell I'd probably expect it to. RGIII is so far beyond JC as a prospect it's crazy. But I'm not taking that risk.

[TheGloryDays]

Agreed. Shanahan has made mistakes, but the idiots thinking he was going to turn the team around in 3 years seem to forget that all the other "quick turnaround" coaches had VERY full cupboards. For the most part, Mike Smith, Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh and even Mike McCarthy inherited their teams. So you're really comparing Shanny's 3 years to 6-7 years of talent acquisition on the part of other teams.

The only team that's even comparable is the Lions under Schwartz, and they're well off last year's pace, and even they inherited a lot of their star players (Megatron and Avril)

Bull****.... total bull****. We we're a team poised for a playoff run ONE YEAR ago until Shanny benched Grossman for someone so unbelievably bad, I refuse to acknowledge him as a Redskins. Now we have a QB better than Grossman, and our team is worse than ever because our coaching staff is totally 100% inept!

[SirClintonPortis]

If we're going to fire Shanahan now, we better find a really good coach that we CAN ACTUALLY commit to for 3+ years. Otherwise, RGIII will indeed have his development delayed with a revolving door at coordinator.

Shanahan was not given a great hand, but sadly, the results are exactly like his last year with the Broncos, and we don't know how patient Snyder is going to be with the bullcrap we're seeing. I'm on the fence on whether he should be fired or not, and I'm not sure which way is the best way.

[justice98]

I'd love to know what Snyder thinks of all this. Like, how different is his mindset watching this debacle compared to all the other debaculous eras he presided over. Cuz at this rate, we're headed for a 4th consecutive double digit loss season. And lord help us if Shanahan has a worse record for the 3rd year in a row, going from 6 wins to 5 to 4. Now, you'd hope he can squeeze out 2 wins to avoid that, but who knows.

And he won't be able to blame the poor record on having a rookie QB, because the rookie QB is already the best player on the team and (along with Alfred Morris) the only thing saving this team from being winless.

[nuposse87]

Joe Gibbs 2 is the only coach that this organization has allowed to have any continuity whatsoever and half the fanbase wanted him run out of town on a rail.

Let's go ahead and fire Shanny and give the next guy two years and fire him too.

Bet we'll get the same results with one exception: RG3 will bolt as soon as his contract is up to go somewhere stable.

Brilliant....

He's had three years...barring a miraculous 2nd half the season run we're going to be a mediocre-below average team again. What does stability matter if it just brings you futility? The offense has regressed in the past three games and the defense has the same old deficiencies. Sometimes you have to accept that the coaches you bring in might just not be cut out for the rebuild. Give someone else three years and see what happens. I'm not saying ax new head coaches year by year. I want something trending in the right direction, if Shanny is fired the next person should be allotted the same time Mike was given. Wallowing away in this futility shouldn't be an option.

And again, if there was ever a time to change offense for RG III, it is now. Do it early in his career rather than later.

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

Bull****.... total bull****. We we're a team poised for a playoff run ONE YEAR ago until Shanny benched Grossman for someone so unbelievably bad, I refuse to acknowledge him as a Redskins. Now we have a QB better than Grossman, and our team is worse than ever because our coaching staff is totally 100% inept!

The same coaching staff was here last year. Well, except we had a real DC, granted he was the defacto DC.

[brandymac27]

Do you REALLY want to roll the dice with the QB we traded 2 firsts for? Really? Sure, it could work out just fine, and hell I'd probably expect it to. RGIII is so far beyond JC as a prospect it's crazy. But I'm not taking that risk.

Because we're talking about RG3 and not some other QB, yes, I'd be willing to take that chance. It's more of gamble to his development to keep the current staff around. Who wants a potential future HOF caliber QB to have to deal with a HC who basically gives up on his team and accepts defeat?

[Momma There Goes That Man]

Why don't we just run the offense we ran last year with Grossman which netted us 5 wins, with Griffin and Morris? He's good enough he can play in that offense. Throw in a gimmicky play once or twice a game to keep defense off balance but seriously, don't reinvent the wheel here.

Let Griffin play. I really feel like we are holding him back at this point.

[Hunter_R]

I don't understand why people are saying a new HC would hurt RG3's development. He already has a LOT of talent, and he's smart. He learns fast. My opinion is that we'd hurt him more keeping Shanny around if for no other reason than all they seem to be doing is holding him back!

This. Great players find a way to be great. If he can't adapt, then the Rams really and truly ****ed us over.

[War Paint]

Rich Campbell ‏@Rich_Campbell

Shanahan: Season now becomes an evaluation for next year. #Redskins

Rich Campbell ‏@Rich_Campbell

Back from the locker room. I'm a bit surprised Mike Shanahan said the season now moves to evaluation mode. Some players were surprised, too.

Wow. Half way into the season, right before three straight NFC East games, Shanahan declares this an evaluation for next year. Man, I know the season is pretty much done, but I don't like seeing that kind of talk until we are mathematically eliminated. Rams fans must be thrilled.

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

This. Great players find a way to be great. If he can't adapt, then the Rams really and truly ****ed us over.

Okay, we fire the Shanahans who are probably working with one of the worst collections of skill position talent in the NFL, and are still fielding a top 10 offense. And to maintain and build upon this, you bring in...?

[Hunter_R]

Okay, we fire the Shanahans who are probably working with one of the worst collections of skill position talent in the NFL, and are still fielding a top 10 offense. And to maintain and build upon this, you bring in...?

Sounds like battered spouse syndrome to me.