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I'm not following why a coaching change would impact Griffin the same way multiple coaching changes impacted Campbell. They aren't the same player, you know.Originally Posted by SpringfieldSkins
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
I'm not following why a coaching change would impact Griffin the same way multiple coaching changes impacted Campbell. They aren't the same player, you know.
"Washington strolled to the NFC championship, outscoring their two playoff opponents by a combined total of 48 points. Their domination was more than impressive, it was historic. The 1991 Redskins boasted the largest average margin of victory among all Super Bowl champions."
--- America's Game
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Not true. Most free agency is because a team cant afford the players contract. They want to keep the player but cant afford too.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Can't be too careful, especially seeing that, you know, the Shanahan offensive scheme, like, works and stuff. We do need to run more traditional WCO sets though, the option should be a change of pace, not a base set.
It's not like the Zorn years where the guy was utterly clueless on offense and pretty much ran Gibbs power football with a super-simple WCO for 8 games because he didn't know any better.
Last edited by The Robert Griffin Experience; November-4th-2012 at 09:25 PM.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
I just believe that a good player will be a good player in most competent schemes. We have seen some marginal talent fail and chalk it up to our coaching changes ruining them...I believe we overrate that. Guys play in high school, college, and the pros and are exposed to new offenses all the time. For the most part, a great QB is going to do that just fine. Stability is ideal, but not imperative.
"Washington strolled to the NFC championship, outscoring their two playoff opponents by a combined total of 48 points. Their domination was more than impressive, it was historic. The 1991 Redskins boasted the largest average margin of victory among all Super Bowl champions."
--- America's Game
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
You could put RGIII in the Single-Wing and he would go to multiple Pro Bowls.
Besides, I think the Shanahans have a bet on which week they can end RGIII's season. This is BS offense we are running, and I have a feeling it's been largely figured out. RGIII needs to play football not be treated like "Create Your Own Player" in Madden.
Last edited by Lombardi's_kid_brother; November-4th-2012 at 09:36 PM.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
i don't know about amazing...but better then the skins...OH WAIT WHO ISN'T.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Bill Polian? I would fly to the Airport and drive him to Redskins Park if he needs it. The Best GM in the game and he's sitting there unemployed. Good Lord dan this would be a better get then any Free Agent Signee they could get. In 2 to 3 years this team would be a Championship contender. Only problem is would he come here? Pay the man enough he will.
GM: Bill Polian
HC: Russ Grimm
Last edited by Frediemac; November-5th-2012 at 12:09 AM.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
>polian
>good
lol no
Shanahan has been at least as good as Polian since 1998. And probably better. Shanahan at least has built a few decent defenses in that span. His teams were just never bad enough to get a stud QB until now, while Polian essentially inherited one (Manning over Leaf was a no-brainer), got a few years out of Edge, drafted Reggie Wayne and Clark, and thereafter blew first rounder after first rounder.
Last edited by The Robert Griffin Experience; November-5th-2012 at 12:13 AM.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
For the love of God, Please don't forget about his 4 CONSECUTIVE SUPER BOWLS APPEARENCES BY HIS BUFFALO BILLS
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Thus the "since 1998".
Can we see what the team looks like with a real #1 WR (hopefully Garcon), a quality starting TE (no no no NO Paulsen is not a quality starting TE), and a healthy defense with a real DC coaching it (I suspect the team would look a lot like it did in week 1)? A lot of our problems are an emotional ripple effect from the defensive and ST failures. Everyone is demoralized because any team in the NFL can march 90 yards for a score any time they want on our D. The Redskins won TOP 35-25, that's the only reason the score was low.
Look, Shanny is ultimately to blame. But firing Shanahan is as stupid as firing Schottenheimer was in 2002 (granted Shanny has been less successful). Because it's making a change to make a change.
And I honestly cannot believe that we're actually discussing axing an offensive head coach in a rookie QBs first year. No, RGIII is not Jason Campbell and will probably succeed regardless. But stability might be what ensures he produces like Brees or Rodgers. The kind of QB you give up TEN first rounders for.
Last edited by The Robert Griffin Experience; November-5th-2012 at 01:10 AM.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
And if you keep Shanahan, you have a team that loses 10+ games every season. You happy with that? Please tell me again, what's the upside to keeping Shanahan? Because it sure isn't WINNING.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
The best thing Shanahan has done in DC
- raise strong running backs that peter out after one season
- work with Allen to draft RG3
That's it
The only reason to keep him is because RG3 doesn't need another offensive coordinator as he tries to adjust to life in the NFL. I don't like the way he is coaching at all, but he should see the rest of his contract. But right now, based on his results, he is doing a bad job. Period. I don't want to hear spin about how the roster sucked when he first got here. Make improvements. Play better. Discipline your players. Call better plays.
There is no excuse anymore, now that Cerrato is gone. It's all him and Allen, and they're still failing.
Last edited by ixcuincle; November-5th-2012 at 05:34 AM.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
if anyone needs anymore evidence that this HC needs to go I don't know what to provide you. He in all probability just was in for the money. Had his son and DC's do the job and he sat back & drank. Just speculation but the product on the field speaks volumes of the HC's capablities & or drive. It's not pretty either way. Needto cut bait and look for someone who's actuall HUNGRY.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
You're really banging this wild drinking speculation hard, huh aReskins?
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Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Simple question for those who support keeping Shanahan around:
What makes you think he will be able to fix the same problem that he's had since the early 2000s and that cost him his job in Denver? (not being able to field an even AVERAGE defense).
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