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[SemperFi Skins]

He's also played on how many teams in his career? The guy is the definition of a bust of a player. I wouldn't even try him out

two teams...agree to disagree on this one... With how crappy our team is right now, injuries or not, you try everyone out you can that could possibly make a difference if you have faith in salvaging a season... Gotta stay aggressive instead of being on the outside looking in wondering 'what if.'

Hell, he could very well be a bust... or this could be a wake up call. What's the risk? Do we have to cut someone important to bring him here, no. Is he going to command a large salary, no. Most importantly, are we better off without him, probably not since our defense looks like a division II college team.

[justice98]

In all seriousness he would add a dimension to the pass rush that Orakpo and Kerrigan lack. The ability to bend the edge. He has a near elite ability to do that along with his super explosive first step. With the jets he disrupted at about a pass play of once per 10-11 pass attempts. Isnt elite but is certainly better than what we have had. Team him with kerrigan on passing downs and hey we may have a semi-decent pass rush

Not near enough to elite cuz nobody wants him.

[MAATopDogg]

It wouldn’t hurt to bring Tammu in. 16 felony counts is no joke but my guess is the prosecutor offers him a deal and plea’s it down. Even if he is suspended were talking like 4 games since this is his first offense in the NFL.

[SemperFi Skins]

Not near enough to elite cuz nobody wants him.

Not every team has a spare roster spot for a situational pass rusher in a 3-4... or they're already set at OLB.

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It wouldn’t hurt to bring Tammu in. 16 felony counts is no joke but my guess is the prosecutor offers him a deal and plea’s it down. Even if he is suspended were talking like 4 games since this is his first offense in the NFL.

We would have needed to put in a claim on the waiver wire before he got signed to Pitt's PS. Now we'd have to bring him over on to our 53 if we wanted him and I do not see that happening.

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You don't have to agree with me, but you can't deny his speed off the edge...



Oher didn't know what to do once Maybin got around him... brings another element to the pass rush in the overload defense. Would be perfect for our 3rd down which we normally struggle on. We need that speed as QB's have timed us up and release within 3-4 seconds max.

[Laron Burgundy]

I thought Maybin was on the cusp of turning his career around for the jets. I wouldn't mind signing him, though it's odd the jets would cut him when they already suck at pass rushing, something else is going on there. Likewise with Ta'amu. Like him as a player, but I don't want our organization to turn into another mid-2000s bengals.

[SMU Redskin]

What's Ta'Amu's suspension looking like? All of 2013? That guy was one of my favorites, one of the top NT prospects coming out of college...a position I believe we desperately need to fill. Sounds like he made one really, really stupid mistake.

This is from his ESPN 2012 draft profile, under "intangibles:"

"Team captain. Quiet and reserved. A very respectful and mature individual. Active in community service. Has improved his off-the-field work ethic and is more dedicated to conditioning than ever before."

Don't see how it could hurt to give him a second chance if he's relegated to a practice squad, depending on how long his suspension is. Might just need a second chance somewhere, it's not like he's Pacman Jones, although he did a very Pacman-like thing one night

[NLC1054]

two teams...agree to disagree on this one... With how crappy our team is right now, injuries or not, you try everyone out you can that could possibly make a difference if you have faith in salvaging a season... Gotta stay aggressive instead of being on the outside looking in wondering 'what if.'

Hell, he could very well be a bust... or this could be a wake up call. What's the risk? Do we have to cut someone important to bring him here, no. Is he going to command a large salary, no. Most importantly, are we better off without him, probably not since our defense looks like a division II college team.

The risk is wasted money and cutting another player we might like for a guy who couldn't stick with a team who is having pass rush issues of their own. If Maybin can't get it done with Rex Ryan as his coach, I don't know what the hell Jim Haslett and our mess of our defensive coaching staff is going to do with him. If Maybin were only good, he'd still be with the Jets. He's not. So he isn't.

We can't keep trying to pick up other teams' sloppy seconds and pray that somehow, someway, they morph into a completely different player. Kindle and Maybin got cut for a reason, and no other team is willing to touch them. Why Redskins fans try and get guys no one wants to touch with a ten foot pole, I don't know.

[darrelgreenie]

This is from his ESPN 2012 draft profile, under "intangibles:"

"Team captain. Quiet and reserved. A very respectful and mature individual. Active in community service. Has improved his off-the-field work ethic and is more dedicated to conditioning than ever before."

<<<<Until the taste of that first drink hits his lips...

No but seriously I agree with you he's worth a look and a second chance and it appears the Steelers are gonna give him that second chance as they have signed him to their practice squad.

Don't see how it could hurt to give him a second chance if he's relegated to a practice quad, depending on how long his suspension is. Might just need a second chance somewhere, it's not like he's Pacman Jones, although he did a very Pacman-like thing one night

Pac-man used to be a legitimate bad guy hanging all over ATL (i used to live in the dirty, dirty) with other legitimately bad guys.

[gorebd82]

<<<<Until the taste of that first drink hits his lips...

No but seriously I agree with you he's worth a look and a second chance and it appears the Steelers are gonna give him that second chance as they have signed him to their practice squad.

I agree. I think he did something stupid, but common with drinking and driving, but then in the moment of crisis made a super, ridiculously idiotic decision by fleeing the cops. He deserves whatever punishment he gets, but I'm not going to write a guy off completely for a bad decision in a pressure moment. Intent holds weight with me and that was clearly a case of panic.

[SemperFi Skins]

The risk is wasted money and cutting another player we might like for a guy who couldn't stick with a team who is having pass rush issues of their own. If Maybin can't get it done with Rex Ryan as his coach, I don't know what the hell Jim Haslett and our mess of our defensive coaching staff is going to do with him. If Maybin were only good, he'd still be with the Jets. He's not. So he isn't.

We can't keep trying to pick up other teams' sloppy seconds and pray that somehow, someway, they morph into a completely different player. Kindle and Maybin got cut for a reason, and no other team is willing to touch them. Why Redskins fans try and get guys no one wants to touch with a ten foot pole, I don't know.

Yea, cus we have so many guys on our team that 'we might like.' Face it, we need help. injuries or not, our D is terrible. Cutting Banks or something like that will not hurt this team and it's not your wasted money. Maybin wouldn't even command a million a year and that's if we even sign him. All I'm saying is bring him in. His speed on the outside could really benefit us. Its been said before that Rex had other issues with Maybin and his vocalness. Hell, I'd like to bring back Kehl too...

I'd rather be a fan like me who thinks we do what we can to try and improve our shaky team instead of pretending we have some hidden talent no one knows about waiting in the wings...

[Laxpunk2006]

Yea, cus we have so many guys on our team that 'we might like.' Face it, we need help. injuries or not, our D is terrible. Cutting Banks or something like that will not hurt this team and it's not your wasted money. Maybin wouldn't even command a million a year and that's if we even sign him. All I'm saying is bring him in. His speed on the outside could really benefit us. Its been said before that Rex had other issues with Maybin and his vocalness. Hell, I'd like to bring back Kehl too...

Why do you think our coaches need to bring him in to evaluate him? There are people in this organization who's job is to evaluate every player in the league. Watching this guy's game tape is going to tell our FO a lot more about him then running him through some drills. Maybin looks great in drills its when the pads go on that he is lacking.

Maybin has 6 sacks in 48 career games.

His six career sacks were all last season. One against us, two against Buffalo, and one more each in San Diego, Miami, and Baltimore.

Of those 5 teams Baltimore is the only one that had a decent offensive line. I wouldn't even classify him as "just a guy." He isn't any good.

[SemperFi Skins]

Why do you think our coaches need to bring him in to evaluate him? There are people in this organization who's job is to evaluate every player in the league. Watching this guy's game tape is going to tell our FO a lot more about him then running him through some drills. Maybin looks great in drills its when the pads go on that he is lacking.

Maybin has 6 sacks in 48 career games.

His six career sacks were all last season. One against us, two against Buffalo, and one more each in San Diego, Miami, and Baltimore.

Of those 5 teams Baltimore is the only one that had a decent offensive line. I wouldn't even classify him as "just a guy." He isn't any good.

Is Chris Wilson any good? Is Rob Jackson any good (maybe on first and second downs)? When's the last time you saw a pass rush?

[Laxpunk2006]

Is Chris Wilson any good? Is Rob Jackson any good (maybe on first and second downs)? When's the last time you saw a pass rush?

Rob Jackson is average on first and second down but leaves something to be desired when pass rushing. Wilson I haven't watched enough of specifically to give you an honest response. Our pass rush sucks. So does Aaron Maybin.


http://www.jetsinsider.com/blogs/chr...imbley/?p=2529

The Jets snatched Aaron Maybin from the Bills trash heap last year and he made Ryan and Mike Tannenbaum look smart for their decision to give him another shot as Maybin finished the season as the Jets most efficient pass rusher with six sacks, two QB hits, 16 QB hurries and four forced fumbles and he did that in just 13 games. It was a promising sign that maybe the former first round draft pick wasn’t such a bust after, but now all that promise seems to have dwindled like Rex Ryan’s waistline. Through the first five games Maybin has played in 61 snaps and has only two tackles and two QB hurries. Not quite the results the Jets were hoping for and if you put on the game tapes it’s easy to understand why he isn’t getting more snaps, he just hasn’t been able to make anything happen.

For a more in depth look at the Jets lack of a pass rush, let’s go over ProFootballFocus.com’s grades for the Jets defense and individual players in pass rushing. Collectively the Jets have earned the fifth worst grade in pass rushing with a grade of -18.1. Only the Jaguars (-21.9), Steelers (-23.4), Saints (-25.0) and Raiders (-25.8) graded out worse than the Jets. For perspective, the top five grades in pass rush went to Seahawks (+43.1), Dolphins (+17.8), Rams (+17.5), Eagles (+16.5) and the Bengals (+9.9). Maybe knowing only 15 teams have a positive grade in pass rushing will make Jets fans feel a little better, until the remember the Jets are -18.1 from having a 0.0 grade.

Only two Jet defenders have earned really bad grades in pass rushing, Pace with -3.3 and Maybin -3.1 (last year Maybin graded at +3.8, Po’uha was the only other player to finish with a positive pass rush grade of +1.9). Wilkerson has a -1.7 grade this year, though it’s important to note that he has been doubled a lot. Bryan Thomas -1.5, DeVito -1.4, Po’uha -1.1 and Josh Mauga -1.0 are the only others to earn a grade of -1.0 or worse.

Maybin had one decent 13 game stretch in his career under one of the best defensive minds in the game today. In every other instance he has been downright awful, including this season. What makes you believe that he is going to step in mid-season, pick up our defense, and then be utilized by our genius defensive coordinator in a manner that is more effective than he ever has been in his career before?

Third time's a charm?

[SemperFi Skins]

He leads the Jets defense in QB hurries in his amount of snaps and is fast off the edge. I never said he was our saving grace and as I've already clearly stated he may not even make our team but it's foolish to not bring someone in who may be able to provide a spark and maybe even spark himself. You really don't need brains to tell him to rush the passer on 3rd downs... The Jets defense overall is not too bad but they just aren't sparking right now. I'd take a few of there guys over ours. Its not just Maybin having a down year on that defense. You see what bad defensive line play does to your pass rushers on the outside. Same thing happens to Orakpo and Kerrigan when our line is playing bad... You can't place all of the blame on a pass rusher when your entire unit isn't doing so well. Revis being out hurts the team more than you can imagine. Your own stats just proved this fact. Give the guy a chance... Hell, we have a journeyman offensive lineman playing right tackle...

[NLC1054]

He leads the Jets defense in QB hurries in his amount of snaps and is fast off the edge. I never said he was our saving grace and as I've already clearly stated he may not even make our team but it's foolish to not bring someone in who may be able to provide a spark and maybe even spark himself. You really don't need brains to tell him to rush the passer on 3rd downs... The Jets defense overall is not too bad but they just aren't sparking right now. I'd take a few of there guys over ours. Its not just Maybin having a down year on that defense. You see what bad defensive line play does to your pass rushers on the outside. Same thing happens to Orakpo and Kerrigan when our line is playing bad... You can't place all of the blame on a pass rusher when your entire unit isn't doing so well. Revis being out hurts the team more than you can imagine. Your own stats just proved this fact. Give the guy a chance... Hell, we have a journeyman offensive lineman playing right tackle...

Okay, so if we have bad d-line play, how is Maybin supposed to be any better here than he was in New York with their bad d-line play?