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[SJValleySkinz]

I wouldn't draft Robey. What's his role going to be? Special teams of some sort probably, which I wouldn't draft in the 2nd or 3rd.

Robey isn't just short, he's tiny. 165 pounds is simply too small to play a regular role in the NFL. He's even smaller than Tavon Austin.

---------- Post added November-27th-2012 at 10:28 PM ----------



Absolutely not.

If he can get up to 175-180 he'll play CB just like Antoine Winfield, Tim Jennings and Brandon Flowers. As it is he doesn't hit or tackle like he's 168 lbs.

[stevemcqueen1]

If he can get up to 175-180 he'll play CB just like Antoine Winfield, Tim Jennings and Brandon Flowers. As it is he doesn't hit or tackle like he's 168 lbs.

It'll be hard for him to get to the kind of weight Jennings and Flowers play at. Those guys are pretty thick for being short. You're talking about probably a 20 pound difference.

Robey can play physical but his bulk issue is about him wearing down in a regular role.

[SJValleySkinz]

It'll be hard for him to get to the kind of weight Jennings and Flowers play at. Those guys are pretty thick for being short. You're talking about probably a 20 pound difference.

Robey can play physical but his bulk issue is about him wearing down in a regular role.

His upper body needs some bulk but as a long jumper it's hard to imagine he has an underdeveloped lower body. It will all come down to if he can still show he's the same athlete after packing on about 10 lbs.

[Dukes and Skins]

Been watching a good amount of Brian Winters lately and I must say I really like his potential in the ZBS scheme at RT. Currently 294 pounds only 10 pounds less than Eric Winston who plays RT

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

Kerrakpo, there isn't an ILB in the league worth that price in draft picks. I wouldn't make that trade for Ray Lewis or Pat Willis in their primes.

Ray Lewis in his prime means you have a top 10 defense for as long as he's on the team. A HOF level ILB is that impactful, and Ray is the best there ever was.

Sure I'd be leery of paying it for our team after paying so much for RGIII for our team, but in a vacuum, I pay the picks and laugh all the way to the bank if I was guaranteed to have Ray Lewis level impact from that pick.

[Monk4thaHALL]

Been watching a good amount of Brian Winters lately and I must say I really like his potential in the ZBS scheme at RT. Currently 294 pounds only 10 pounds less than Eric Winston who plays RT

Winters was awarded with 1st team All Mac just recently (I believe) ... Archer awarded and the HC too.

http://www.kentstatesports.com/sport...leases/All-MAC
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Mac Championship

Friday Nov 30 - espn 2 - 7pm
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http://www.niuhuskies.com/

http://www.kentstatesports.com/landing/index
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I'll be watching Winters that night but also get a chance to watch Rashaan Melvin in game context (yet to really watch him). Also want to see the NIU QB Lynch.


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I do believe the winner of the Mac Championship gets a birth in the BCS, right?

---------- Post added November-28th-2012 at 12:36 PM ----------

Yep, Winters 1st Team. Eric Fisher awarded too (no surprise)

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/coll...dan_lynch.html

2012 All-MAC First Team Offense

Position – Name - School

Quarterback – Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois

Center – Zac Kerin, Toledo

Offensive Linemen – Brian Winters, Kent State

Offensive Lineman – Eric Fisher, Central Michigan

Offensive Lineman – Dann O’Neill, Western Michigan

Offensive Linemen – Austin Holtz, Ball State

Tight End – Zane Fakes, Ball State

Wide Receiver – Martel Moore, Northern Illinois

Wide Receiver – Bernard Reedy, Toledo

Wide Receiver – Willie Snead, Ball State

Wide Receiver – Jamill Smith, Ball State

Running Back – Dri Archer, Kent State

Running Back – David Fluellen, Toledo

Placekicker – Steven Schott, Ball State

---------- Post added November-28th-2012 at 01:09 PM ----------

This is BIG:

La Tech vs Utah State

You get to see Patton (4) vs Will Davis (CB #17). Plus in general you get to see the La Tech offense - a handful of good players in Holley and Lee and Cameron.

[Monk4thaHALL]

Well boys,

I just finished my 26 page business plan so now I have my life back!! I can start scouting again

Party at your place?

[stevemcqueen1]

Ray Lewis in his prime means you have a top 10 defense for as long as he's on the team. A HOF level ILB is that impactful, and Ray is the best there ever was.

Sure I'd be leery of paying it for our team after paying so much for RGIII for our team, but in a vacuum, I pay the picks and laugh all the way to the bank if I was guaranteed to have Ray Lewis level impact from that pick.

No ILB would be worth that to me. It's one of the most replaceable positions in the game. That's three starters, one of which you're hoping to be Probowl caliber.

Not to mention I don't think Te'o is Ray Lewis good. I think the talk of him winning the Heisman damns this Heisman class. Probably the worst one I can ever remember.

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

No ILB would be worth that to me. It's one of the most replaceable positions in the game. That's three starters, one of which you're hoping to be Probowl caliber.

Wasn't saying for T'eo in particular, I don't think he's that good. He's probably a 2nd rounder in last year's draft. But while it's fairly easy to get a good, solid ILB because it doesn't put quite as much a premium as other positions on pure athleticism, the impact of a great one is nearly as large as the impact of a great CB or pass rusher, if not greater.

Consider this as a thought experiment:

Would you trade 3 starters, including a potential Pro Bowler, for a Hall of Famer at any position group save for special teams?

[SemperFi Skins]

This is BIG:

La Tech vs Utah State

You get to see Patton (4) vs Will Davis (CB #17). Plus in general you get to see the La Tech offense - a handful of good players in Holley and Lee and Cameron.

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no offense, but that almost looked like a blooper video. I watched 4 minutes of it and saw nothing but dropped passes, terrible/questionable throws, and offensive pass interference which would definitely be called in the pros.

[skinzwiz]

I've recently been wondering if one of them could move inside if we came across a truly elite OLB that was good enough to take their spot. I'm talking about a guy that is just a dominant pass rusher and would allow us to have phenomal pass rush from three LB spots. I think my biggest concern would be exposing Orakpo or Kerrigan to that type of pass coverage. They'd get torched downfield by the Jimmy Graham's of the world.

I still think this is a 4-3 defense playing the 3-4. Orakpo and Kerrigan would be better as DEs in a 4-3. This is why I think until the skins get a true NT, the defense won't ever be right. Every successful 3-4 defense has a stand-out at NT. It's why I'd like the team to get Jarvis Jenkins from Georgia, but he is likely a high first rounder.

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

I still think this is a 4-3 defense playing the 3-4. Orakpo and Kerrigan would be better as DEs in a 4-3. .

This phrase is bandied about far too often with too little actual explanation.

[SemperFi Skins]

I still think this is a 4-3 defense playing the 3-4. Orakpo and Kerrigan would be better as DEs in a 4-3. This is why I think until the skins get a true NT, the defense won't ever be right. Every successful 3-4 defense has a stand-out at NT. It's why I'd like the team to get Jarvis Jenkins from Georgia, but he is likely a high first rounder.

I think you mean John Jenkins.... since you're talking about NT's

[bird_1972]

I think you mean John Jenkins.... since you're talking about NT's

Do you think he's a high first rounder as well?

I can't recall a NT that has gone early in the first.

[SemperFi Skins]

Do you think he's a high first rounder as well?

I can't recall a NT that has gone early in the first.

If any NT goes early in the first it would be Star Lotulelei but I think John Jenkins gets snagged up in the early 2nd