2013 Comprehensive NFL Draft Database

[stevemcqueen1]

McQueen, Dukes, and Monk. When are you guys going to have your first set of mock drafts ready?

I'll probably write a big board soon, probably not a mock.

[Monk4thaHALL]

[avril] We can't go after a guy like that unless we're trading Orakpo or something.

(I meant to respond earlier, just got caught up).

Well, that injury of his has been recurrent ...

You know, I've got some article with shanahan calling it a "tear in a different part of the muscle," but whatever.

Two tears, Two surgeries - same general Pectoral, around the left shoulder.

And one might also label the tweak of the injury he suffered in the pre-season as a separate incident, IDK.

So, it does concern me. To what extent, I'm not sure even how I feel. I guess that's debatable. But I think we agree on having a capable replacement ready.

[Cooleyfan1993]

saw a thread in the breaking news section about an LSU tigers cornerback Tyranne Mathiau. Would be a pretty good draft pick. Also, the writer of the article that was posted is a bad writer. he had a sentence about josh morgan and pierre garcon. then he says "neither her nor garcon". uhhh...her? josh morgan is a her now? wow.

[Rufus T Firefly]

(I meant to respond earlier, just got caught up).

Well, that injury of his has been recurrent ...

You know, I've got some article with shanahan calling it a "tear in a different part of the muscle," but whatever.

Two tears, Two surgeries - same general Pectoral, around the left shoulder.

And one might also label the tweak of the injury he suffered in the pre-season as a separate incident, IDK.

So, it does concern me. To what extent, I'm not sure even how I feel. I guess that's debatable. But I think we agree on having a capable replacement ready.

If Orakpo's injury is career threatening, then yes, it changes the conversation. At that point, someone like Avril is an option, though he doesn't really excite me.

A guy like Barnes or Kruger would be a good pass-rushing option to rotate in with Alexander/Jackson.

[HailToTheRedskins14]

Okay guys, what yall think of the secondary players for my Bulldogs?

After the TOUGH loss last night, I gotta start thinking about which players are leaving.

Here are our seniors :

Branden Smith - speedster at CB, decent on PR, undersized, not very physical. Had a lot of hype and performed well but I don't know if he's an NFL kinda guy. We used him on offense some over the years.

Sanders Commings - big, can play CB or S. Physical. Pretty darn good at the college level. I'm bad at projecting to the NFL so I have no idea where he will go. He was a playmaker at times over the years.

Bacarri Rambo - I hear he's a 1st/2nd round guy at FS. He had a little trouble here and there. Couldn't stop eating the weed brownies (but who can right?). I think he's got his head on straight after making some mistakes. Would love to hear what yall think about him.

Shawn Williams - Kinda the leader on our defense. Hits hard, fast. They were gushing about him last night saying he's NFL ready after running down (and missing) a tackle on a Bama RB. Plays SS but looks like a LB. Would like to hear what yall think on him too.


'Big Bad' John Jenkins is a NT that's a senior. He came to UGA last year as a JUCO transfer. He's listed as 6'3 358. Kinda underwhelming on the stats, but he's a monster. We run a 3-4 and the NT, from what I understand, is supposed to be kinda the least talked about player. Sacks are great, but Jenkins definitely opened up holes for everyone else by taking on blockers.

Of course you got Jarvis Jones as a junior and he should be gone. Top 10 still would be my guess, though he kinda had a bumpy year. Started off kinda slow, then got really hot, then cooled down a bit. Still played at a very high level.

We also have Alec Ogletree at ILB and he's a stud. He's a junior and I don't know if he's going or not. He's listed at 6-3 232. I'm pretty sure he could play inside or out. I feel like he could play safety. The guy is all over the field, hits hard, very fast.

Tavarres King is a senior WR who might get a shot. Georgia WR's other than AJ don't seem to show up much in the NFL. In recent memory Mohammad Massaquoi (sp) is probably our second best, and King kinda reminds me of him. Wouldn't expect much from him in the NFL.

I think with all these guys, they'll need a little coaching up. Great athletes but we have a history of undercoaching them. I don't think many of them show up in the league with the fundamentals down like you would get from Nick Saban's guys. Anyway, would love to hear from some of you more knowledgeable folks on any of these guys.

[Dukes and Skins]

McQueen, Dukes, and Monk. When are you guys going to have your first set of mock drafts ready?

No clue, probably have an initial one done after the underclassmen declare

[MrJL]

I was counting the dead cap figures too. The 23 mil is the net savings. And I was counting Brown's figures as a pre June 1 cut so he'd be completely off the books for 2014.

Is this the site: http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm ? Cause it has some problems. For example London Fletcher is signed to a two year deal. Not five.

[Dukes and Skins]

Okay guys, what yall think of the secondary players for my Bulldogs?

After the TOUGH loss last night, I gotta start thinking about which players are leaving.

Here are our seniors :

Branden Smith - speedster at CB, decent on PR, undersized, not very physical. Had a lot of hype and performed well but I don't know if he's an NFL kinda guy. We used him on offense some over the years.

Sanders Commings - big, can play CB or S. Physical. Pretty darn good at the college level. I'm bad at projecting to the NFL so I have no idea where he will go. He was a playmaker at times over the years.

Bacarri Rambo - I hear he's a 1st/2nd round guy at FS. He had a little trouble here and there. Couldn't stop eating the weed brownies (but who can right?). I think he's got his head on straight after making some mistakes. Would love to hear what yall think about him.

Shawn Williams - Kinda the leader on our defense. Hits hard, fast. They were gushing about him last night saying he's NFL ready after running down (and missing) a tackle on a Bama RB. Plays SS but looks like a LB. Would like to hear what yall think on him too.


'Big Bad' John Jenkins is a NT that's a senior. He came to UGA last year as a JUCO transfer. He's listed as 6'3 358. Kinda underwhelming on the stats, but he's a monster. We run a 3-4 and the NT, from what I understand, is supposed to be kinda the least talked about player. Sacks are great, but Jenkins definitely opened up holes for everyone else by taking on blockers.

Of course you got Jarvis Jones as a junior and he should be gone. Top 10 still would be my guess, though he kinda had a bumpy year. Started off kinda slow, then got really hot, then cooled down a bit. Still played at a very high level.

We also have Alec Ogletree at ILB and he's a stud. He's a junior and I don't know if he's going or not. He's listed at 6-3 232. I'm pretty sure he could play inside or out. I feel like he could play safety. The guy is all over the field, hits hard, very fast.

Tavarres King is a senior WR who might get a shot. Georgia WR's other than AJ don't seem to show up much in the NFL. In recent memory Mohammad Massaquoi (sp) is probably our second best, and King kinda reminds me of him. Wouldn't expect much from him in the NFL.

I think with all these guys, they'll need a little coaching up. Great athletes but we have a history of undercoaching them. I don't think many of them show up in the league with the fundamentals down like you would get from Nick Saban's guys. Anyway, would love to hear from some of you more knowledgeable folks on any of these guys.

I would take both Rambo and Williams in a heartbeat and watch them become a nasty tandem in the NFL

[Monk4thaHALL]

Okay guys ...
Branden Smith
Sanders Commings
Bacarri Rambo
Shawn Williams
John Jenkins
Jarvis Jones
Alec Ogletree
Tavarres King

I think you provided very good information yourself. I think you've got the answers within yourself. That was knowledgeable and concise what you wrote there.

Neither here nor there, I was impressed with Commings press coverage at the goalline and his INT yesterday. I've seen his name floating around the later parts of the draft, 5th - 6th - 7th. Someone will bank on his upside, especially considering his size and length and how physical he looks at times.

It would be great to see him at the Senior Bowl, something like that would help his stock big time.

[Rufus T Firefly]

Is this the site: http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm ? Cause it has some problems. For example London Fletcher is signed to a two year deal. Not five.

http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-re...ntract-details

No site is perfect on stuff like that, but warpath has been consistently solid over the years.

[darrelgreenie]

You want Polumbus back? From the list of FA tackles it seems like we would have a good chance to upgrade from Polumbus without pulling one of the top guys. I'd be fine with that and then bringing up Compton to backup depending on how he has come along.

Trust me, I am not a fan of Tyler Polumbus. But, at a minimum we know that the offense can function with Polumbus at RT. He's not the ideal RT but it makes sense to keep on the roster while seeking an upgrade.

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I don't know about Wilson. Rak will be back, hopefully so will Jackson. Addison was good enough for the roster for quite a few games. I don't think we need him.

Yeah, I'm with you on Wilson I didn't mean to keep him on the list. I actually thought rotating Rob Jackson with Wilson hurt Jackson's progress.

---------- Post added December-2nd-2012 at 06:56 PM ----------

I'd probably let Wilson go at this point. and maybe Rocca. Let a couple of kids battle for his job. And Rex I'd definitely bring back at the minimum.

Lichtensteiger is the interesting choice, imo. Is 2012 what we can expect from him, or do we think he'll get better another year removed form injury? What's his pricetag? How do we feel about LeRibeus and Gettis' abilities to take a starting job? I think those questions determine whether you bring Lich back.

I would like to think that LeRibeus was ready to step up but from our vantage point how can we know? I only know that our 3rd round pick OG has barely been active and was passed over in training camp by a later round OG. Those facts suggest to me that neither is ready to pass Maurice Hurt on the depth chart much less Corey Lichtensteiger.

I would let Rex hang around the Park as a quality assisant or assistant QB coach, but I don't want to waste a roster spot on a dude that isn't going to be active on gameday.

[MAATopDogg]

I know you guys would bash me for this but I really like Ed Reed in our secondary next year. He's a FA and is a ball hawk back there. I know he's over 30 but and is oft injured but our secondary would be vastly improved with him and then we could add some young players back there with him.

[darrelgreenie]

If Orakpo's injury is career threatening, then yes, it changes the conversation. At that point, someone like Avril is an option, though he doesn't really excite me.

A guy like Barnes or Kruger would be a good pass-rushing option to rotate in with Alexander/Jackson.

I consider quality pass rushers, regardless of Rak's health, a need every offseason.
You can never have to many quality pass rushers.

---------- Post added December-2nd-2012 at 07:16 PM ----------

2013 NFL Draft: Top small school prospects

DE David Bass, Missouri Western State (6-3, 258): Bass contributed immediately as a redshirt freshman in 2009 and has progressively improved each season. Last year, he broke a school record with 20.0 tackles for loss and led the conference with 14.5 sacks, one short of the single season school mark. Bass, who is one of the most decorated defensive players in program history, has 28.0 career sacks and is on pace to break several career records in 2012.

Anyone know of any vid/cut-ups of this guy?

[KDawg]

I know you guys would bash me for this but I really like Ed Reed in our secondary next year. He's a FA and is a ball hawk back there. I know he's over 30 but and is oft injured but our secondary would be vastly improved with him and then we could add some young players back there with him.

I highly doubt he leaves Baltimore. He's with Ray Lewis, his good friend. And beyond that, it's not easy to go to a completely new system at this point in his career. He doesn't need the Redskins, or to play. He plays because he has passion. I doubt he leaves Baltimore and goes on to play elsewhere, to be honest.

[Dukes and Skins]

I highly doubt he leaves Baltimore. He's with Ray Lewis, his good friend. And beyond that, it's not easy to go to a completely new system at this point in his career. He doesn't need the Redskins, or to play. He plays because he has passion. I doubt he leaves Baltimore and goes on to play elsewhere, to be honest.

He would retire before he leaves baltimore. Theres a reason why he continually threatens to retire, he ends up getting paid more from them