2013 Comprehensive NFL Draft Database

[Monk4thaHALL]

oh that sucks, I wonder if they would entertain a rob jackson for shields swap. Not that I don't like Jackson its just CB is clearly a bigger need than OLB

Generally speaking, Restricted Free Agents just don't change teams, mostly because it's not cost effective for the suitor team, but it is cost effective for the parent team. Green Bay with either get a long term deal done with Shields (a new contract) or they will tender him.

The tender amounts are subjective. The parent team essentially decides how much the player is worth and provides a qualifying offer sheet based on what "level" they think his value is (1st round / 1st & 3rd round), but it also has to be at least at the level of the player's original draft selection and something like at least 120% of the prior year salary ... I kind of forget now.

Simply there are rules about it ...

The general base level of money is determined by the league in the cba and it is based on accrued seasons and/or original round selected.

If the Redskins wanted Sam Shields they would have to not only match the tender level (qualifying offer sheet) but likewise give draft pick compensation.

That's if GB decided not to evoke it's right of first refusal. That just means they can match an offer their player receives from other clubs. If GB wanted to match the Skins offer they could.

But beyond that:
A team cannot exercise its right of first refusal pursuant to a sign-and-trade agreement.

When a team exercises its right of first refusal to keep a restricted free agent, it cannot trade the player for one year without the player’s consent. Even with the player’s consent, for one year, the player cannot be traded to the team whose offer sheet was matched.

Any player for whom a team exercises its right of first refusal may not be traded before the later of (i) three months following the date the contract was signed and (ii) the December 15 of the salary cap year in which the contract was signed.

[Laron Burgundy]

FWIW many think Kyle Long ends up going top 75

And I'm pretty sure Sam Shields is a RFA not a UFA

I know I'd take him with our 3rd on potential alone. Apparently he had a chemical dependency, but has since cleared himself from that. He only recently swapped to o-line so he's got a lot of potential left.

[NIKKI8]

Assuming we part ways with DHall due to salary cap, and we can sign Brandon Albert or Ryan Clad or Andy Levitre.
2nd David Amerson CB, 6-2/195
3rd Phillip Thomas S 6-1/215 Fresno State
4th Sanders Commings CB 6-2/216 Georgia
5th Marquess Wilson WR 6-4/185 or Marcus Davis WR 6-4/232 VTech
5th Alex Hurst OT 6-6/340 LSU
6th Blaize Foltz G TCU 6-4 310
7th Chris Jones DT 6-1/293 Bowling Green

I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but I really wish people would stop talking about signing Ryan Clady. First of all there is 0% chance Denver lets there franchise left tackle walk for free and secondly if by some miracle they did the only way Washington could sign him is by moving Williams to RT and I can't see how they can afford to pay two OT's over 25 million dollars a year combined. Please everybody, stop thinking Ryan Clady is coming to Washington!

[Skins199021]

I never really understand how restructuring works. Like can you extend the years on a contract as a means to restructure.

Take Moss for instance. His cap number is like 4.5 million or something for 2013 with like 2.5 million guaranteed. Could you restructure that to where he gets like 1 million in 2013 and extend the contract through 2014 where he would get 4.5 million in 2014 with 3.2 million guaranteed?

Or with Hall who is owed a ridiculous amount and none is guaranteed. Could you extend a year on his contract and give him 1.5 million in 2013 and 4.5 million in 2014 and 2015? If so that right there would free up almost 10 million.

Then you cut Brown and Merriweather (Especially coming off that injury). You need to restructure Morgan as well who as of now would be nearly a 7 million cap hit for 2013 which is outrageous for him

---------- Post added January-13th-2013 at 07:01 PM ----------

And trying to be more realistic (again I trade both 5ths to get another 4th round pick)

2nd: Jordan Pryor CB
3rd: Kyle Long OT
4th: D.J. Swearinger S
4th: Jelani Jenkins ILB

Sign Glover Quin, Derek Cox, Ryan Harris, and maybe DRC (his stock has fallen maybe he will come cheaper, he is talented though)

[Laron Burgundy]

I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but I really wish people would stop talking about signing Ryan Clady. First of all there is 0% chance Denver lets there franchise left tackle walk for free and secondly if by some miracle they did the only way Washington could sign him is by moving Williams to RT and I can't see how they can afford to pay two OT's over 25 million dollars a year combined. Please everybody, stop thinking Ryan Clady is coming to Washington!

I have that exact same pet peeve. Teams resign productive, young, clean, uninjured players at important positions. Having FA fantasies is great, but let's limit it to someone who doesn't fit the description in the 2nd sentence to a tee. Maybe Eben Britton, maybe Vollmer, but the three he listed are almost so assuredly remaining on their current teams that it's just a pipedream.

[NIKKI8]

[QUOTE=Laron Burgundy;9398463]I have that exact same pet peeve. Teams resign productive, young, clean, uninjured players at important positions. Having FA fantasies is great, but let's limit it to someone who doesn't fit the description in the 2nd sentence to a tee. Maybe Eben Britton, maybe Vollmer, but the three he listed are almost so assuredly remaining on their current teams that it's just a pipedream.[/UOTE]

I'm glad you mentioned Britton, I was thinking that maybe he might be a good affordable pickup. I don't know alot about him but I know coming out of college scouts liked his athletisism and it seems like he would be a good fit for the zbs. Jacksonville has moved him around alot and had him playing guard last year. I think he would be a good pick up for the right price.

[ConnSKINS26]

Im probably just speaking for myself here lol, but I'm kind of growing tired of coming up with Skins-specific mock drafts because, lets face it, we almost NEVER pick up who we think we will/should.

When an "obvious" BPA pick is on the board when we pick, we almost always go for someone that isn't on our collective radar like a LeRibeous or something...and generally, it's worked out great. I've learned to trust our scouts, and Campbell, and Brown, and most importantly Shanahan. It's a good feeling, and it makes my interest in forecasting our picks much lower. Which is much less stressful. I post in here much less, but still read everything and seriously appreciate the conversation in comparison to most of the rest of the board. Dukes, Steve, dg, monk, you guys always bring it, and it's awesome.

But I personally spend a lot more of my time watching the prospects that I love regardless of the likelihood that they are drafted by us. I imagine those perfect BPA picks that always fall to those well-run playoff teams and work out, I imagine how fun they would be to watch. The two best recent examples for me are Cobb to the Packers and DeCastro to the Steelers.

Because of my stronger faith in our FO doing well in the draft my interest has expanded from just the Skins to the NFL as a whole in regards to the draft and good player/team fits. I know a lot of you guys are already there of course, but then I've always been a massive amateur at this compared to some of you guys anyways. I'm just noticing my interests slowly changing and expanding in response to our teams drafting, which is nice.

[Dukes and Skins]

I know I'd take him with our 3rd on potential alone. Apparently he had a chemical dependency, but has since cleared himself from that. He only recently swapped to o-line so he's got a lot of potential left.

I fully agree, he's played at G at times for Oregon, but he's definitely a T for me in the NFL. The Senior Bowl for him will be huge

[Rabsuz]

Im probably just speaking for myself here lol, but I'm kind of growing tired of coming up with Skins-specific mock drafts because, lets face it, we almost NEVER pick up who we think we will/should.

When an "obvious" BPA pick is on the board when we pick, we almost always go for someone that isn't on our collective radar like a LeRibeous or something...and generally, it's worked out great. I've learned to trust our scouts, and Campbell, and Brown, and most importantly Shanahan. It's a good feeling, and it makes my interest in forecasting our picks much lower. Which is much less stressful. I post in here much less, but still read everything and seriously appreciate the conversation in comparison to most of the rest of the board. Dukes, Steve, dg, monk, you guys always bring it, and it's awesome.

But I personally spend a lot more of my time watching the prospects that I love regardless of the likelihood that they are drafted by us. I imagine those perfect BPA picks that always fall to those well-run playoff teams and work out, I imagine how fun they would be to watch. The two best recent examples for me are Cobb to the Packers and DeCastro to the Steelers.

Because of my stronger faith in our FO doing well in the draft my interest has expanded from just the Skins to the NFL as a whole in regards to the draft and good player/team fits. I know a lot of you guys are already there of course, but then I've always been a massive amateur at this compared to some of you guys anyways. I'm just noticing my interests slowly changing and expanding in response to our teams drafting, which is nice.

Ugh your right, there's nothing more frustrating than when you spend all offseason looking at draft prospects and talking your guy up, and then your team takes someone you have never heard of or really payed attention to. Like in 2011 when we debated for months about which QB was the best and then we take a DE we never even really discussed. I guess it's the nature of the beast.

Damn you Shanahan, for not being predictable.

[Dukes and Skins]

Kerrigan was the last person I expected us to take. I thought it was either Gabbert or Quinn. Kerrigan was good all the time, had a ridiculous motor, but I thought he would be a 4-3 DE, turned out to be a pretty good 3-4 OLB

[darrelgreenie]

Russell Wilson deserved to win that game...then again he deserved to win the Michigan State game last year and the Oregon game last year.
The Seahawks were let down by their in game decision making and terrible run defense

[Dukes and Skins]

Russell Wilson deserved to win that game...then again he deserved to win the Michigan State game last year and the Oregon game last year.
The Seahawks were let down by their in game decision making and terrible run defense

To be fair, Russell can't take that sack at the end of the first half that cost them a FG opportunity

[SkinsTillIDie]

Because of my stronger faith in our FO doing well in the draft my interest has expanded from just the Skins to the NFL as a whole in regards to the draft and good player/team fits. I know a lot of you guys are already there of course, but then I've always been a massive amateur at this compared to some of you guys anyways. I'm just noticing my interests slowly changing and expanding in response to our teams drafting, which is nice.

This faith in the FO induces a similar response in me. Blind trust in those making the decisions -- a welcome relief indeed.

I think it's a more fun endeavor to try to predict the positions we'll address and moves we may make. It was widely presumed last year we'd target interior linemen in the draft, even with our high picks -- we simply got the players wrong.

In any case, it can be assumed that our brass will make some unpopular decision(s) come draft weekend. Whether it's taking a player high that no one's heard of (LeRibeus in the 3rd), or spending a valuable pick at a seemingly unnecessary position (Cousins in the 4th), or simply taking a player higher than universally mocked (Jenkins in the 2nd, Keenan Robinson in the 4th, etc.) -- we're in for surprises.

So what unexpected decisions can we, well, expect?

Trading our 2nd round pick for a 1st in 2014?
Trading down, our 2nd round pick for a high 3rd and 4th?
Packaging our 2nd and a 4th to move up for a defensive back with a 1st round grade that was still on the board entering the second day?
Using our 2nd round pick on a defensive lineman, and then cutting Adam Carriker? (who has a 2013 cap hit of $4 million, on a line with Bowen + $5.5 million and Cofield + $6.45 million)
... making the decision everyone expects us to make?

[Laxpunk2006]

I never really understand how restructuring works. Like can you extend the years on a contract as a means to restructure.

Take Moss for instance. His cap number is like 4.5 million or something for 2013 with like 2.5 million guaranteed. Could you restructure that to where he gets like 1 million in 2013 and extend the contract through 2014 where he would get 4.5 million in 2014 with 3.2 million guaranteed?

Or with Hall who is owed a ridiculous amount and none is guaranteed. Could you extend a year on his contract and give him 1.5 million in 2013 and 4.5 million in 2014 and 2015? If so that right there would free up almost 10 million.

I'm not sure the specifics of Hall's contract but it was his and Albert Haynesworth's that got us in trouble with Mara. A large portion of his contract was pushed into a bonus that season so I don't believe it is accurate that he is owed a ridiculous amount of money still.

[Momma There Goes That Man]

I'm not sure the specifics of Hall's contract but it was his and Albert Haynesworth's that got us in trouble with Mara. A large portion of his contract was pushed into a bonus that season so I don't believe it is accurate that he is owed a ridiculous amount of money still.

I'm pretty sure I read recently that Hall has no guaranteed money remaining. Basically we can cut him and free up his entire salary with no penalty, however, he did say he would be open to restructuring to stay. He wants to be here and I want him here. We should have quite a few options as far as what to do with his contract.