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    Yeah it was mentioned in here last night about Thomas and being a Redskins fan. McDonald has apparently done well this week. Haven't had a chance to watch myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukes and Skins View Post
    Yeah it was mentioned in here last night about Thomas and being a Redskins fan. McDonald has apparently done well this week. Haven't had a chance to watch myself
    Ok, sorry I missed it. For what its worth he's a very articulate guy, comes across smart. Paulson talked free agency -- he more or less said the cap will temper than some but not completely. He thinks they will be aggressive filling their needs. He said he talked to some of the free agent players' agents who have spoken to the Redskins who told Grant there are hundreds of ways to work around the cap and the Redskins know all of them.
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    How do people feel about Blidi Wreh-Wilson? I'm a big fan.
    I like him. I believe the consensus was a 2nd to 3rd rounder pre-senior bowl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinsinparadise View Post
    Ok, sorry I missed it. For what its worth he's a very articulate guy, comes across smart. Paulson talked free agency -- he more or less said the cap will temper than some but not completely. He thinks they will be aggressive filling their needs. He said he talked to some of the free agent players' agents who have spoken to the Redskins who told Grant there are hundreds of ways to work around the cap and the Redskins know all of them.
    With this FO I dont doubt that they know every way around it. Looking at some of the contracts they did last year it was impressive even with the cap penalty. Wouldn't surprise me if they got 2 guys in FA that fill needs.

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    Desmond Trufant vs. Markus Wheaton:

    "Wheaton, whose instant acceleration made him arguably the toughest draw for any of the North's talented defensive backs, called out Trufant at one point early in skeleton drills. Another defender appeared to be next in line to cover Wheaton on the next play but demonstrative pleading by Trufant caused the Washington Redskins' coaches to allow the two Pac-12 adversaries to go at it for a memorable one on one battle.

    Lining up inches from the Oregon State speedster, Trufant easily turned to run with Wheaton. A subtle pause from Wheaton caused the Washington cornerback to anticipate a shallow route and he slowed. Wheaton hit the gas and broke free for a moment. Trufant showed impressive closing speed as the ball arrived. Wheaton caught the ball but his momentum carried him out of bounds for a play ruled an incompletion from both Trufant and an applauding Washington defensive backs coach."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukes and Skins View Post
    With this FO I dont doubt that they know every way around it. Looking at some of the contracts they did last year it was impressive even with the cap penalty. Wouldn't surprise me if they got 2 guys in FA that fill needs.

    Also no worries on the missing it, it happens my man
    Agree on FA. They had similar cap issues last year, they still found room to sign a major FA, Garcon, and a medium one in Morgan. Then they went bottom fishing. Wouldn't surprise me if they do something similar with the obvious focus on the secondary. On the surface, seems easier to go corner in free agency and then safety in the draft or perhaps safety in both free agency and the draft considering arguably we need a free and strong safety.

    Shanny likes to emphasize he's about BPA in the draft and I presume he doesn't like to get boxed in too much where he has to go need. I think not going corner in FA is risky -- yeah maybe guys like Rhodes, Poyer, Trufant, etc are still there but CBs sometimes are grabbed earlier than expected ala O lineman. Arguably there is more depth at safety especially if you grab one in the 2nd round. I know the safeties and corners have been covered extensively in this thread, just thinking in terms of free agency, I'd guess they are more likely to go top dollars on corner than safety.
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    I fully agree on the FA plan of CB and S. Think if they can get a guy like Keenan Lewis at CB and then a SS ala Chris Clemons then they have a ton of flexibility heading into the draft
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukes and Skins View Post
    I fully agree on the FA plan of CB and S. Think if they can get a guy like Keenan Lewis at CB and then a SS ala Chris Clemons then they have a ton of flexibility heading into the draft
    Yeah, that would fit too the salary structure similar to last year of a high end, but not through the roof top tier free agent then medium level. It would leave free safety and perhaps RT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinsinparadise View Post
    Yeah, that would fit too the salary structure similar to last year of a high end, but not through the roof top tier free agent then medium level. It would leave free safety and perhaps RT.
    Exactly both Lewis and Clemons wont command the top 3 Salaries that other guys in their classes would. Both are also young guys to entering their prime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukes and Skins View Post
    Exactly both Lewis and Clemons wont command the top 3 Salaries that other guys in their classes would. Both are also young guys to entering their prime
    Great minds think alike. I'd be ecstatic with these two... FS can be found in the draft.

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-observations/

    The practice for the North team here at Senior Bowl week concluded a bit ago, and later this afternoon the South team will practice.

    In attendance for the two-hour session was Redskins General Manager Bruce Allen, vice president of football administration Eric Schaffer, director of player personnel Scott Campbell and members of the team’s scouting department.

    Some observations from the session:

    - I was impressed talking to safeties T.J. McDonald of USC and Phillip Thomas of Fresno State at the player-media dinner last night, and both stood out in practice today.

    McDonald showed his versatility. He was used in the box, rushing off the edge, covering receivers in the slot, and further upfield in cover-two looks and in a centerfield role when Thomas covered receivers in the slot.

    Using his size, speed and strength, McDonald got the better of running backs trying to pick up his blitzes on one-on-one drills.

    - Both McDonald and Thomas made some plays against the run as well. But Thomas wasn’t as effective while blitzing off the edge.

    McDonald appeared more comfortable playing closer to the box or in one-on-one coverages than he did in those Cover-2 looks. A couple of times, he was slow to react when providing help over the top, but at other times he showed good closing speed and helped make downfield stops.

    - Thomas looked comfortable in coverage regardless of where he lined up. He said he prides himself on being able to cover like a corner and hit like a safety.

    - Oregon State corner Jordan Poyer and Connecticut corner Dwayne Gratz both made some nice plays in coverage. Gratz had two pass breakups and an interception.

    - The best offensive lineman on the North squad appears to be left tackle Eric Fisher of Central Michigan. The 6-foot-7, 305-pounder is quick off the line and moves well when getting out on stretch plays, and in pass coverage he was quick to react and remained in front of the pass-rusher, consistently winning one-on-one battles. Fisher is likely to go early in the draft, however, so he probably wouldn’t meet the Redskins’ needs for a right tackle.

    - Syracuse tackle Justin Pugh also did well on most of his one-one-one matchups. At 6-5, 297 pounds he’s not quite as big as Fisher, and not quite as quick. But he still appears to be a solid lineman who is projected to go in the second or third round.

    - Illinois offensive lineman Hugh Thornton has seen time at right tackle, as well as at guard, but appears more comfortable at guard. He moves well for a guy who is 6-4, 310 pounds, but he struggled with consistency in pass protection today.

    - Michigan quarterback Denard Robinson is here this week trying to prove himself as a receiver/punt-kick returner. He had more struggles than bright spots today. He did make Utah State corner Will Davis look silly as he shook him with a double-move and was wide open to catch a bomb. But Robinson struggled with some of his route-running on intermediate routes, had some drops, and he also muffed three punts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemperFi Skins View Post
    Great minds think alike. I'd be ecstatic with these two... FS can be found in the draft.
    I'd be fine with going FS round 2 Going NT with Brandon Williams round 3 and then a RT in round 4 like Xavier Nixon
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    From the same link:

    While Trufant won most of the battles, Wheaton and Dobson certainly enjoyed their moments against he and the rest of the North defensive backs.

    Dobson lacks Wheaton's rare speed but is a savvy route-runner whose body control and reliable hands made him a standout throughout practice. He made arguably the catch of the day early on, leaping high and contorting his body to haul in a difficult deep pass over tight coverage and came up limping. Dobson was held out of much of the remaining one on one drills but showed his toughness in returning during the 11 on 11 scrimmage towards the end of practice. Dobson hasn't generated as much attention as many of the other receivers in Mobile but impressed me with his attention to detail. He sets up defensive backs well, selling his routes to push defensive backs deep even on running plays and showing off strength and determination as a downfield blocker. He also consistently worked his way back to the quarterback, drawing praise from the Washington staff.
    If he can show this well, then he'd really help us out. Also a Team Captain, which we like. We really like our WR's to block well and hard. Blocks on the perimeter help the stretch game, and blocks down the field break big runs. The next sentence in that is gold too.
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    I dont understand that because we aren't part of the staff who's doing the senior bowl. Its Detroit and Oakland this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samurai View Post
    Desmond Trufant vs. Markus Wheaton:

    "Wheaton, whose instant acceleration made him arguably the toughest draw for any of the North's talented defensive backs, called out Trufant at one point early in skeleton drills. Another defender appeared to be next in line to cover Wheaton on the next play but demonstrative pleading by Trufant caused the Washington Redskins' coaches to allow the two Pac-12 adversaries to go at it for a memorable one on one battle.

    Lining up inches from the Oregon State speedster, Trufant easily turned to run with Wheaton. A subtle pause from Wheaton caused the Washington cornerback to anticipate a shallow route and he slowed. Wheaton hit the gas and broke free for a moment. Trufant showed impressive closing speed as the ball arrived. Wheaton caught the ball but his momentum carried him out of bounds for a play ruled an incompletion from both Trufant and an applauding Washington defensive backs coach."

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