2013 Comprehensive NFL Draft Database

[TheShredSkinz]

Stedman Bailey from WVU... would be a steal in the 3rd round IF we could draft him there.

indeed.

No doubt. That offense was wide open and had a lot of fire power.

Who would you pick from the list below?

DL Slyvester Williams/DL Kawann Short/WR Quin Patton/WR Terrance Williams/S Matt Elam/S Eric Reid/S Phillip Thomas

I not convinced Elam is a better FS than what we could get later. It would be hard to not take Short.....I think he would make our DB's better.

Do u take T.Williams over Hopkins???

[Skinsinparadise]

No doubt. That offense was wide open and had a lot of fire power.

Who would you pick from the list below?

DL Slyvester Williams/DL Kawann Short/WR Quin Patton/WR Terrance Williams/S Matt Elam/S Eric Reid/S Phillip Thomas

I'd go Eric Reid -- can cover very well, can defend the run very well. He'd not only shore up a weakness but also likely allow them to be more creative in coverages and disguising them.

[Chump Bailey]

What do you guys think of Marcus Davis VA Tech?

[RWJ]

I'd go Eric Reid -- can cover very well, can defend the run very well. He'd not only shore up a weakness but also likely allow them to be more creative in coverages and disguising them.

No doubt Reid is good but to me Elam was more consistent. Reid splash plays were down in 2012 vs. 2011. I think he needs to improve his pass coverage skills.

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What do you guys think of Marcus Davis VA Tech?

He's a big receiver with decent speed. He finished the year just under 1000 yds. receiving. To me, he didn't fair to well in the Senior Bowl. It could be because of weak QB play. I think he will be drafted somewhere between the 4th/5th rounds.

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What do you guys think of Marcus Davis VA Tech?

He's a big receiver with decent speed. He finished the year just under 1000 yds. receiving. To me, he didn't fair to well in the Senior Bowl. It could be because of weak QB play. I think he will be drafted somewhere between the 4th/5th rounds.

[TheShredSkinz]

I'd go Eric Reid -- can cover very well, can defend the run very well. He'd not only shore up a weakness but also likely allow them to be more creative in coverages and disguising them.

Can't argue Reid's skill but trading back for P. Thomas wouldn't be a bad move IMO.

[Skinsinparadise]

No doubt Reid is good but to me Elam was more consistent. Reid splash plays were down in 2012 vs. 2011. I think he needs to improve his pass coverage skills.

IMO its Elam not Reid who needs to improve their pass coverage skills. Elam strikes me as a beast of a hitter Laron Landry style -- lethal in stopping the run, the draft geek scouts for the most part worry about him in pass coverage.

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Can't argue Reid's skill but trading back for P. Thomas wouldn't be a bad move IMO.

I'd be OK with that. In John Keim's email report, he asks Russ Lande, ex NFL scout for his take on the safeties. Cliff notes version -- he loves Vaccaro. He seems to have big concerns about McDonald and Shawn Williams and to a degree Jefferson. He seems to like everyone else to different degrees, thinks Duke Williams is the big diamond in the rough who could be the surprise stud of the mix. This is in order of where he thinks he will be drafted.

2. Eric Reid -- "he will be the next guy picked after Vaccaro" "he's a tremendous athlete." "He flies around the field. "He has great range" I'd like to see more consistency" Mid to late first round

3. Matt Elam: "he's the old school close to the line of scrimmage safety" "this kid has issues in coverage" "he's a physical player." Great special teams player. 2nd round

4. Cyprien: "he has nice feet and can peddle and change direction" "he can be a box guy but he can cover" "At the Senior Bowl people were shocked at hoe easily moved and his range." 2nd round

5. Rambo: "he's an athletic kid and he can run" "he has great coverage skills" he didn't specify what round

6. Jefferson "he can hit but misses a ton of tackles" He often seems lost in coverage. Overall, he thinks he will pan out because of his athleticism. 2nd or third round

7. Phillip Thomas "Good at everything but not elite at any one thing" "He's effective in coverage. He's not Ed Reed" "workman like starter" "he will have some trouble with really fast guys" 2nd or third round

8. TJ McDonald "I am not a big fan of him" "When you put the game film on he's a disappointment." He says he totally looks the part but plays erratically. 2nd or 3rd round.

9. David Amerson "if you want a real athletic safety who is willing to hit, he could be the sleeper safety of the draft." He seems to think he will be a better safety than corner because of his lack of great speed. 2nd or 3rd round

10. Shawn Williams "He's freaky smart" "He has the intangibles. The leadership" "The problem is he's not very good" "He's not natural in terms of football." 3rd round

11 Duke Williams "the kid who might end up being the best of all of them" "He's a violent player. he flies up the field" "he can move around. he's a smart kid" 3rd to 5th round

12. DJ Swearinger "he has great range and versatility" "I like him" "He's very intriguing." 4th round[COLOR="Gold"]

[DogofWar1]

Anyone else notice how much Kiper seems to hate Geno Smith? McShay has him going to the Bills at 8, but Kiper doesn't have him, or any other QB, in the 1st.

If Kiper is right, it'd be the first time since 2008 a QB wasn't selected 1st, the first time since 2000 one wasn't selected in the top 3, and the 1st time since '96 that one wasn't picked in the 1st round at all.

I concur this class is somewhat weak, but I don't think it's really that bad, especially because teams are desperate. Of course, that might work to our advantage, in general Smith was the only 1st round QB expected to come off the board, if teams wait, there might be a run on QBs in the 2nd round, pushing some of that early 2nd round talent down to us.

[NLC1054]

Anyone else notice how much Kiper seems to hate Geno Smith? McShay has him going to the Bills at 8, but Kiper doesn't have him, or any other QB, in the 1st.

If Kiper is right, it'd be the first time since 2008 a QB wasn't selected 1st, the first time since 2000 one wasn't selected in the top 3, and the 1st time since '96 that one wasn't picked in the 1st round at all.

I concur this class is somewhat weak, but I don't think it's really that bad, especially because teams are desperate. Of course, that might work to our advantage, in general Smith was the only 1st round QB expected to come off the board, if teams wait, there might be a run on QBs in the 2nd round, pushing some of that early 2nd round talent down to us.

Part of me thinks Kiper just wants to be a contrarian.

The closer we get to the draft, the more the quarterbacks will be pushed up in the first round. Some team will panic and pick a guy early, because there's no guarantee if you sit around and wait until the second your guy is going to be there. I think Mike Glennon and Tyler Wilson will be in the first round conversation by time it's all said and done.

Oh. And that Barkley guy.

[Monk4thaHALL]

Markus Wheaton beats De'Anthony Thomas






thomas will a quick gate release 10 and 20 yard splits must have been incredible. wheaton with sustained and increasing speed, tracked and reeled him - ran down thomas with the long range.

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for reference the Olympic record - Jamaica - Usain Bolt 9.63 (2012)

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wheaton:

That's a bad ball Dog - I ATE YOU UP

[Dukes and Skins]

With Marcus Davis what you see is a freak of nature athlete who just isn't a very good WR. Now can he develop? Certainly, but some team is going to over draft him for his tools

[Monk4thaHALL]

And the whole "blocking" thing for M. Davis.

[Dukes and Skins]

And the whole "blocking" thing for M. Davis.

Yeah that too!

[skinsfan_1215]

Yeah blocking is kinda an issue. Don't want someone this crappy of a team player.

http://deadspin.com/5959914/virginia...-blocking-ever

And of course he felt the need to respond... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...7b7a_blog.html

[Dukes and Skins]

Saw on twitter Shamarko Thomas reportedly ran a 4.27 this week while training. If we do draft a SS he would be the guy I'd love to see learn from Merriweather

[Monk4thaHALL]

Saw on twitter Shamarko Thomas reportedly ran a 4.27 this week while training. If we do draft a SS he would be the guy I'd love to see learn from Merriweather

And here's something to realize, Merriweather is still under contract. So whether or not we like the idea of another oft injured guy still hanging around (brown, orakpo) he'll likely get a chance to compete at SS. Also add in that Doughty is there, who's a mix of spot-starter and back-up and full time starter after someone gets injured ...

That spells, focus on Free Safety, push the importance of SS. Maybe something like late round draft choice or undrafted just to bring someone in for "competition." At least that's my thought process right now.


So you look at FS in the draft, it's just missing guys. Very few deep middle cover guys there. There are more bodies at SS.
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Brandon Merriweather:
3/15/2012: Signed a two-year, $6 million contract.

The deal contains $3.5 million guaranteed, including a $2 million signing bonus. Meriweather is eligible for annual $50,000 workout bonuses in each year.

2012: $1.45 million
2013: $2.45 million

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washingto...n-meriweather/
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