2013 Comprehensive NFL Draft Database

[Dukes and Skins]

I've asked a couple times...

Can someone give me honest draft expectation for Honeybadger.

Why so low, this guy is 1st round talent all day long.I would jump at 3rd round for him. He's a proven DB in SEC. Even if his character issues cause him to bust, worth upside for drafting legit top 20 talent. Kid was Heisman finalist on Defense and can play special teams in his sleep. What am I missing?????

Some of you gurus please respond

Gotta watch the film on him. Can't spend a 1st round pick on a nickel CB at best. He's a playmaker, but he also will get burnt a good amount too. He's moved up in the 4th/5th area for me

[delmarvan]

Add Justin Hunter to the list of WR's we should consider taking in the 2nd round.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

I've asked a couple times...

Can someone give me honest draft expectation for Honeybadger.

Why so low, this guy is 1st round talent all day long.I would jump at 3rd round for him. He's a proven DB in SEC. Even if his character issues cause him to bust, worth upside for drafting legit top 20 talent. Kid was Heisman finalist on Defense and can play special teams in his sleep. What am I missing?????

Some of you gurus please respond

Combination of things: Character, lack of size and speed (until proven otherwise).

That's not the best combination.

[Dukes and Skins]

Add Justin Hunter to the list of WR's we should consider taking in the 2nd round.

Tough to see him as the pick. Doesn't fit exactly the criteria of guys we take

[Monk4thaHALL]

Does this raise a concern on Wheaton? Just curious.

http://www.walterfootball.com/combine2013workoutWR.php

Oregon State wide receiver Markus Wheaton ran well with a 40 time of 4.45 seconds officially. It was a top-10 time, but he had a few drops in the gauntlet drill, including an ugly one on an out route. Wheaton (5-11, 189) has a bad habit of letting the ball get into his body and that leads to the drops. He is likely to go on the second day.

That's incorrect. And it's not surprising since it comes from Walter.

His first run through the gauntlet he didn't drop anything. And his hands were away from the body. If we're going to critique guys on form, Swope used his body as a backstop to make his catches, almost exclusively, so ...

And Swope dropped two passes on his 2nd run, by doing so. They bounced right onto his chest and onto the ground.

The 2nd run through the drill that's where Wheaton got mixed up looking the wrong direction.

The first drop occurred at the start line, it was ball #2. The drill begins by having the reviver hop a 180 turn and catch a pass that's head on. Wheaton caught ball #1, turned 180, and just bobbled #2. But he had his hands out in front, just dropped it. The next incomplete, like I said, he was crossing - running, it was the 2nd to last pass, ball #6 (I think) and he was looking the wrong direction, for whatever reason. The ball hit his elbow while he was looking the other direction.

Anyway he gathered himself in the next step and catches the last ball, turns up field.

But notwithstanding, the drills in which the receivers had to track the ball over their shoulder and adjust the route by stemming it outside - that's where Wheaton looked good. He's good a tracking and adjusting on a pass downfield. Why not have Walter talk about that?

So it had nothing to do with form, he just got bumbled.

[PlayAction]

I am officially on the Tavon Austin bandwagon. I can just imagine the dimension he would add to this offense playing out of the slot, and running the packages they had designed for Banks out of the backfield.

I know he's fast but is he shifty enough to play in the slot? Another poster mentioned that one of RGIII's current weaknesses is that he tends to throw high over the middle. I tend to agree on the mid routes. Austin is only 5-8 (an inch shorter than the clone that everyone wants of Wes Welker). Will RGIII be able to hit Austin on the slant routes or will he sail them over his head?

[Monk4thaHALL]

Just want to quote what Marshall Faulk said today on the Inside Zone Cut drill. The RB gets the ball, runs to he Coach with the dummy bag, the coach leans the bag one direction and the RB plants a foot, makes one cut and goes the opposite direction, runs to a cone then cuts upfield and accelerates.

When Kerwynn Williams did it Faulk said:

There it is, that was run to perfection, that guy Kerwynn Williams

And when you look at the vid of it, go to NFLN online to see it. You'll see how smooth the weight transfer was by KW. He's diminutive, apparently has short arms but he's a natural runner

[DogofWar1]

That's incorrect. [awesome explanation omitted]

This kind of analysis is why I come here, thanks.

So apparently Star Lotulelei has a heart condition. Details are still scarce, but it's a pretty big deal considering he's a top 10 pick.
Adam Schefter on FB:
Via @mortreport: Utah DT Star Lotulelei will not be allowed to work out at Combine because an echocardiogram discovered a heart condition.

[Bonez3]

Well, I've heard enough. Select Honeybadger 3rd round. Kid is gonna play in this league. There are enough misses in the 3rd round that never even make a practice squad to select this kid, who I know will at very least make roster.

[chess]

I know he's fast but is he shifty enough to play in the slot? Another poster mentioned that one of RGIII's current weaknesses is that he tends to throw high over the middle. I tend to agree on the mid routes. Austin is only 5-8 (an inch shorter than the clone that everyone wants of Wes Welker). Will RGIII be able to hit Austin on the slant routes or will he sail them over his head?

Watch the tape of him.... shifty as hell.... wide open space he will destroy CBs

[NLC1054]

Here's my impressions of the combine from the first two days.

Feedback would be appreciated.

Tried to catch spelling mistakes by this Super Cold I have is wrecking havoc on like, my ability to do thinking stuff. And stuff.

[bird_1972]

This kind of analysis is why I come here, thanks.

So apparently Star Lotulelei has a heart condition. Details are still scarce, but it's a pretty big deal considering he's a top 10 pick.
Adam Schefter on FB:
Via @mortreport: Utah DT Star Lotulelei will not be allowed to work out at Combine because an echocardiogram discovered a heart condition.

If it was diagnosed via an Echo, worst case scenario is that he may have what Hank Gathers had - hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Only other thing that's likely to be the case is PFO which is a "hole in the heart" - way more benign unless he gets a DVT or something.

Doubt the Skins had this guy on their radar if he was projected top-10, right?

[Dukes and Skins]

Here's my impressions of the combine from the first two days.

Feedback would be appreciated.

Tried to catch spelling mistakes by this Super Cold I have is wrecking havoc on like, my ability to do thinking stuff. And stuff.

Jordan Pugh again. You should know by now is Justin Pugh

[NLC1054]

Jordan Pugh again. You should know by now is Justin Pugh

Damn it!

[Dukes and Skins]

Damn it!

come on KC