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    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype View Post
    Tackling is a weakness for Darrelle Revis and 95% of the corners in this league.
    Bull****. Darrelle Revis is one of the best, if not the best, tackling corners in the league. Hell, despite ever insistence that he's the worse thing in the history of modern football, D-Hall's a pretty damn good tackler as well. The 49ers have three corners who can all tackle. The notion that most corners don't know how to tackle is ridiculous.

    Now, D-Hall is a testament to the fact that if you put your mind to it, you really can improve that aspect of your game. But D-Hall is also an example of someone who had bad habits and bad technique at Virginia Tech that have continued through his 9 years in the league. When he was younger, his speed hid some of those defencies, but as he got older and the league caught on to him, those weaknesses started to get taken advantage of.

    Again, he's improved a lot more than people give him credit for. But it's been 9 years, and he still gets has bouts of bad footwork, and he still gets his hips turned in the wrong direction, and he (though not as much as people think) still occasionally jumps a route on a double move because he's not minding his work. He's a lot better. I mean A LOT better than he was with the Raiders, or even when he first came to the 'Skins. But when it all breaks down, you resort to what you know.

    You can teach technique, and tackling, and what have you, but for the most part, guys are going to be who the are. Worst yet, Amerson reminds me of all the worst qualities of D-Hall, only slower than D-Hall was than he was his age. He ran a 4.4 officially.

    People get caught up in the physical attributes of payers and they ignore the film. That's the same mistake coaches and general managers make. Al Davis made a career out of that. Even Mike Shanahan has fallen prone to that.

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    Heard Marquise Goodwin on Jay Mohr sports. He said he talked to all 32 teams at the combine but the Seahawks, Cowboys and Redskins showed the most interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmchairRedskin View Post
    Heard Marquise Goodwin on Jay Mohr sports. He said he talked to all 32 teams at the combine but the Seahawks, Cowboys and Redskins showed the most interest.
    When everybody was saying "oh Tavon, Tavon Tavon" at the beginning of the off-season, I talked up Goodwin being a far better value in the 5th (his original projection). Now he has risen up and now people are seeing what I saw-a very good athlete playing in a mediocre offense that masked his true ability. He's going to take at least a 3rd, but I think he will he a very good player in the NFL.


    Round 2-Justin Hunter WR
    Round 3-DJ Swearinger S
    Round 4-Blidi Wreh-Wilson CB
    Round 5-Kerwynn Williams RB
    Round 5-Ace Sanders WR
    Round 6-Damion Stafford S
    Round 7-Chris Thompson RB

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    How's everyone feeling on Da'Rick Rogers?

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    Would rather trade for two's getting quality instead of numbers ;and fill in with vets for one year as next year we will have $18 Million more for talent.

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    I'd love to get Goodwin if we can nab him with our 3rd. I don't know if I'd go WR in the 2nd knowing how deep this WR class is. If we can get Swope or Goodwin in the 3rd, then we should go secondary in the 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmchairRedskin View Post
    Heard Marquise Goodwin on Jay Mohr sports. He said he talked to all 32 teams at the combine but the Seahawks, Cowboys and Redskins showed the most interest.
    If I recall correctly, LL56 on Twitter awhile ago said the Redskins are very interested in adding a speedster whether its a RB or WR. Banks was a bust mostly on the triple option plays but I'd presume if they had a guy who can line up in the backfield and take a lateral and fly -- it would really make it a serious threat. Plus, it seems like the offense is prime for more deep balls this year -- the way teams stack the box against us. And, I wonder about Aldrick Robinson, two deepball/TD catches are nice but nothing spectacular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rk3025 View Post
    Would rather trade for two's getting quality instead of numbers ;and fill in with vets for one year as next year we will have $18 Million more for talent.
    My issue with this is this draft is there seems to be a lot of good and similar talent stacked in rounds 2-5. The 49ers spook me having 15 picks in this draft. They are already loaded as is. I'd use them as trade down partners if they are willing.
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    If Margus Hunt is there in the 3rd it's really tough not to take him. He's raw, but physically he is just a monster. If he's there in the fourth you run to the podium, stuff the card in Goodell's mouth, then run around giggling.

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    I would absolutely go Margus Hunt if we release Carriker. Not that releasing Carriker REQUIRES us to go DE in the draft, as I think we could still make due with what we have, but yes, that would be too hard to pass up at 85 ... and absolutely impossible to pass up at 116.

    If we could sign Lynch and Toler in FA and we keep Moss around ... we may be in a position to go after a DE or TE early

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMadisonSkins View Post
    I would absolutely go Margus Hunt if we release Carriker. Not that releasing Carriker REQUIRES us to go DE in the draft, as I think we could still make due with what we have, but yes, that would be too hard to pass up at 85 ... and absolutely impossible to pass up at 116.

    If we could sign Lynch and Toler in FA and we keep Moss around ... we may be in a position to go after a DE or TE early
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMadisonSkins View Post
    I'd love to get Goodwin if we can nab him with our 3rd. I don't know if I'd go WR in the 2nd knowing how deep this WR class is. If we can get Swope or Goodwin in the 3rd, then we should go secondary in the 2nd.
    I think that is a misconception though. I think WR and CB are both deep, but you're not going to find a Justin Hunter type in later rounds. I think the difference is far less between CBs between rounds 2-4.

    With certain CBs unexpectedly rising up, a guy like Blidi Wreh-Wilson could be a 4th rounder and Robert Alford could be a third. Those were two I guys I thought were sure 2nd rounders, but I can see both dropping just from all the CB talent available.


    Round 2-Justin Hunter WR
    Round 3-DJ Swearinger S
    Round 4-Blidi Wreh-Wilson CB
    Round 5-Kerwynn Williams RB
    Round 5-Ace Sanders WR
    Round 6-Damion Stafford S
    Round 7-Chris Thompson RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemperFi Skins View Post
    How's everyone feeling on Da'Rick Rogers?
    Like him a lot, but his junior status kind of makes things weird. He's right up there with Hunter, Woods, Williams, and Patton, but Williams and Patton are seniors, so they might win tiebreakers there. We'll have to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinzwiz View Post
    I think that is a misconception though. I think WR and CB are both deep, but you're not going to find a Justin Hunter type in later rounds. I think the difference is far less between CBs between rounds 2-4.

    With certain CBs unexpectedly rising up, a guy like Blidi Wreh-Wilson could be a 4th rounder and Robert Alford could be a third. Those were two I guys I thought were sure 2nd rounders, but I can see both dropping just from all the CB talent available.
    Right, I get that. The interesting thing I noticed about the Bleacher Report post-combine mock draft was it had WRs and SAF shoot up the board while CBs and OTs fell. Armstead and X. Nixon in the 6th. BW Webb in the 6th, Wreh-Wilson in the 5th and Alford in the 4th ... but Cyprien/Reid were both gone early ... and Goodwin, Swope, Hunter, Wheaton, etc. etc. were all gone by early to mid-3rd, where as previously they had been stretched out as far down as the 6th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogofWar1 View Post
    Like him a lot, but his junior status kind of makes things weird. He's right up there with Hunter, Woods, Williams, and Patton, but Williams and Patton are seniors, so they might win tiebreakers there. We'll have to see.
    Add off the field issues and a lack of speed. That is the true tiebreaker imo.


    Round 2-Justin Hunter WR
    Round 3-DJ Swearinger S
    Round 4-Blidi Wreh-Wilson CB
    Round 5-Kerwynn Williams RB
    Round 5-Ace Sanders WR
    Round 6-Damion Stafford S
    Round 7-Chris Thompson RB

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    I don't think the consensus is that CB is deep; Safety is deep but not CB.

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