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[vabigpoppa]

man, after watching the alabama game, i really wish we had a 1st round pick to nab chance warmack the huge guard for the tide. he is a beaaast, and he is athletic, it shocked me how he was pulling and getting out into the 2nd and 3rd levels

[NLC1054]

I think we are building our team similar to Green Bay and NO. As of right now, our defense is better than either of those teams, but our offense needs to get to that level. *Both of those offenses have elite QB play and waves of skill position players to bring in. I think we have our potential elite QB and waves of talent to bring in. But the Pack and Saints also have Jordy Nelson, Finley, Jimmy Graham and Sproles as special talents to open up opportunity for everyone else. Denard is a guy that can be that special talent, but do it without completely killing the WR or RB pipelines. *His versatility allows us to use everyone.*

In case of Nelson, he may have run a 4.37 (GODDAMN IT VINNY...sorry...), but the dude also runs great routes, can beat bump, and has really good hands. The speed helps the big plays, but it doesn't cause it. It's an incredible facet of his game, but his game is much more based around him. Graham and Finley are just so big that it hard as hell to defend the in the seams (Finley drops a lot of balls, though). And Sproles is just a lil ball of awesomeness (that's a football term, right?).

I think we see every year we get really fast guys who blow up the Combine their 40 time, and then get to the NFL and don't do much. Every year there's scat backs or flat out speed guys who come out and don't amount to much. They get to the NFL and they struggle because, in college, you can catch a guy flat footed and blow past them. In the NFL, everyone is pretty damn good; you have to bring something more to the table than speed.

I think that's my thing with Denard; if we line him up in the backfield, is he going to pass protect? Or is he going to be the poor man's Percy Harvin, where you line him up all over the formation? What's his route tree going to look like? I don't know...I'd much rather another team take that chance.

I'm typically a "best-player-available according to your needs" guy, and I like players to be more fleshed out and well rounded than experiental. And I'd expect Aldrick to sort of get more and more looks to be that speed, vertical receiver. I know he's unproven now, but I get the sense he might make some big plays this season. Denard seems like an experimental thing. Maybe it's just me.

[Dukes and Skins]

man, after watching the alabama game, i really wish we had a 1st round pick to nab chance warmack the huge guard for the tide. he is a beaaast, and he is athletic, it shocked me how he was pulling and getting out into the 2nd and 3rd levels

Agreed, Warmack is one of those guys I love to watch play football. The other guy is Barrett Jones as well, he could go late 1st or mid 1st, it all depends on how teams view the C position

[FuriousD]

Safety or OT with our 1st overall in 2013. I'd be shocked otherwise.

Agree with the overall sentiment but I would expand it to include any O-line or any DB. I would'nt be opposed to Shanallen drafting a pure center if he was the BPA or a great cover corner either.

[Dukes and Skins]

Agree with the overall sentiment but I would expand it to include any O-line or any DB. I would'nt be opposed to Shanallen drafting a pure center if he was the BPA or a great cover corner either.

Dont see us going for a C early, if anything we'll look mid rounds at C. Most likely one right now is secondary help

[Monk4thaHALL]

John Boyett caught my eye.

A little bit like Eric Weddle. Maybe a tick smaller, slightly smaller. Maybe not as much length in the arms and legs, to my eye. Weddle is very instinctive as a runner with the ball, few are like him. We'll have to see in terms of speed. Though, Boyett's energy, hustle, diving for passes, diving for fumbles, sticking his nose in there, for his size, is just energizing and fun to watch. When he intercepts someone and he reverses field on a run-back, that just strikes home as very Weddle. Also just their short of stature, play big, type styles are similar. His interviews come off real well as well. Lots of pride and genuine earnest responses.

[Dukes and Skins]

In case you didnt know, Logan Thomas on ESPN now. Jeremy Attachou on D for GT and a good group of DL prospects for VT headlined by James Gayle

[Laron Burgundy]

David Amerson had about as bad a game as he could have had against tennessee. Had 9 solo tackles, but was just outran on 3 long td's, twice while being in man coverage and once on a wr around. His position in the pro's might be fs.

[DogofWar1]

Keeping an eye on GT v. VT. Omoregie Uzzi OG and Rod Sweeting CB out there tonight. Not really any other guys out there to heavily watch, unless we go for Marcus Davis, WR.

[Dukes and Skins]

Not a very good night from Logan Thomas so far. Inaccurate and looks like he's hesitating too much

[Monk4thaHALL]

Another edited vid of Ellington:


---------- Post added September-3rd-2012 at 09:58 PM ----------

Thomas has all the advantages of rare size, etc. but has a ways to go throwing the ball.

---------- Post added September-3rd-2012 at 10:00 PM ----------

Finch has not stepped up his game, he's getting bullied by #98.

[DogofWar1]

Finch has not stepped up his game, he's getting bullied by #98.

Injured now too.

Big personal foul against Sweeting. Kinda iffy though, he hit after the ball was over the WRs head. Still, him hitting the guy means he wasn't aware of where the ball was. Then again, he's pegged as a 5th or 6th rounder, so can't expect a complete player.

Aaaaannnnd he gave up a huge TD pass, and he pass interfered at that. Hmmm....

[windsofcreation]

Va Tech is so heinous.

[Monk4thaHALL]

Wow Georgia Tech.

I love it when underdogs show up big.

[stevemcqueen1]

Injured now too.

Big personal foul against Sweeting. Kinda iffy though, he hit after the ball was over the WRs head. Still, him hitting the guy means he wasn't aware of where the ball was. Then again, he's pegged as a 5th or 6th rounder, so can't expect a complete player.

Aaaaannnnd he gave up a huge TD pass, and he pass interfered at that. Hmmm....

The PF was borderline but it was dumb to take that cheap shot when it was clear the play was over.

The interference penalty was the right play. If you know it's a TD, it absolutely behooves you to interfere in CFB. TD versus a 15 yard loss.

---------- Post added September-4th-2012 at 12:05 AM ----------

Not a very good night from Logan Thomas so far. Inaccurate and looks like he's hesitating too much

He was inaccurate, threw high a lot. Some of the misses were the receivers fault. Two of the bad throws looked like the receivers ran the wrong routes. Threw it away a couple times when there was nobody open. He's going to be working with an inexperienced group of WRs this year. He's going to have to bring them up and elevate them.

I didn't think his timing was as much of an issue as his accuracy. He was just throwing high.

But the thing with Logan is that he's got that Roethlisberger big QB demeanor. He's never rattled in the pocket. He sees the whole field and extends plays so easily. He just makes it look easy. I think he's got really good pocket presence.

He's also got an absolute gun. Some of those big plays were into tiny windows, plays that will translate to the NFL level. I was also impressed with his touch throws, especially the first touchdown.