***2012-13 NBA THREAD!!! New Season/New Thread - LET'S GO!!!!!***

[MLSKINS]

Nobody has a respond to RA15's question about Spolestra resting Lebron, Wade, and Bosh last year. Yes it was late in the season, but they were healthy scratches.

And stop comparing Basketball to other forms of entertainment. That is weak.

[MattFancy]

Dude whatever man Stras just came off Tommy Johns a surgery that if isn't handle properly can END YOUR CAREER. The man played most the year, not too mention his last few starts was filled with crap games.

The Yankees also sent out a all star team vs the Orioles minus players that was most likely hurt. If I don't like it don't go too the games your saying this like what Pop did happens all the time, well it don't and it shouldn't be allowed too happen again. Your forgetting who pay there salaries.

Yeah the Braves had a guy come off TJ surgery last year too and he pitched all season.

The coach is there to win games, not worry about the fans or the league sponsors.

[SiCkSoULjA]

Yeah the Braves had a guy come off TJ surgery last year too and he pitched all season.

The coach is there to win games, not worry about the fans or the league sponsors.

Medlen started 12 games and was just in the bullpen for the first half of the season and had 138 innings pitched.

Strasburg started 28 games pitched 159 innings was more of a work horse.

Both had great seasons both was limited both had 2 different recoverys with the same on a 160 inning limit.

---------- Post added November-30th-2012 at 03:36 PM ----------

Nobody has a respond to RA15's question about Spolestra resting Lebron, Wade, and Bosh last year. Yes it was late in the season, but they were healthy scratches.

And stop comparing Basketball to other forms of entertainment. That is weak.

it was responded to plently times LAST YEAR WAS A LOCKOUT SHORTEN SEASON, THERE WERE NO OFF SEASON CONDITIONAL PROGRAMS AND NO REALLY NO TRAINING CAMPS. Then like you said it was at the END of the season where pretty much everything was set in stone. This is in November!

[Monte51Coleman]

They should have rested versus the Wizards, taken the win, and moved on.

[Destino]

Because there are other parties involved. Fans and TV partners.

If you were the manager of a great restaurant and I paid you $200,000 to cater 75 parties for me over the course of a year, and three of those parties were in one week....would I have to right to complain if you ordered Dominoes for the third one?

Its not the allstar game and while you may like to see a certain player that player can miss a game for any reason. Are we going to fine teams for suspending or benching popular players too? What about teams that trade popular players away?

Competition has to trump spectacle at some point. Before people start blabbering about revenue remember that sport and competition is why we're even having the discussion. It's not the WWE.

[Fight4RGIII]

I love that Pop just doesn't give a **** about what anyone thinks about this move. He cares about what is best for his team and I respect that.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Competition has to trump spectacle at some point.

Does it?

I'm not sure.

Anyway, there is a story not be told here and that is that all leagues are facing a future where attendance is going to be at risk because of technology. I've repeatedly said, I have no idea why anyone ever attends a live sporting event - except for maybe a baseball game. You are spending a small fortune to go through the inconvenience of going someplace to experience an event that is better experienced by sitting at home.

Within the next decade, the challenge for every league is going to be getting people to come to live events. Having teams consciously sabotage the experience is not going to help matters.

[The Caretaker]

Why does this old, tyrannical, piece of **** think he has any say in this matter? Corrupt ****. He is the coach, he decides who sits and who rests, he is a legendary coach at that.

Just go jump off a cliff or retire Stern, everyone is already sick of your bull****.

They are always spouting off about the integrity of the game, this is the opposite, even Adam Silver said he had no issue with it last season, and made NO discretion between it being a lockout year or not, he has been doing this for years.

[DM72]

Does it?

I'm not sure.

Anyway, there is a story not be told here and that is that all leagues are facing a future where attendance is going to be at risk because of technology. I've repeatedly said, I have no idea why anyone ever attends a live sporting event - except for maybe a baseball game. You are spending a small fortune to go through the inconvenience of going someplace to experience an event that is better experienced by sitting at home.

Within the next decade, the challenge for every league is going to be getting people to come to live events. Having teams consciously sabotage the experience is not going to help matters.

I hear ya, but sometimes you just wanna be there live and in person. Wouldn't you have want to tell people you saw MJ live? I saw LeBron vs the Knicks last season and in 15 years when he's considered one of the best of all time, I can say I saw him live in his prime.

[RonArtest15]

Medlen started 12 games and was just in the bullpen for the first half of the season and had 138 innings pitched.

Strasburg started 28 games pitched 159 innings was more of a work horse.

Both had great seasons both was limited both had 2 different recoverys with the same on a 160 inning limit.

---------- Post added November-30th-2012 at 03:36 PM ----------



it was responded to plently times LAST YEAR WAS A LOCKOUT SHORTEN SEASON, THERE WERE NO OFF SEASON CONDITIONAL PROGRAMS AND NO REALLY NO TRAINING CAMPS. Then like you said it was at the END of the season where pretty much everything was set in stone. This is in November!

Oh, I see....we get to pick and choose when to sanction teams for resting guys. Got it.

Save me the "fans" BS. People paid good money under the premise that Lebron/Bosh/Wade would be playing as well...and they got to see 20 minutes worth of Norris cole, Dexter Pittman, and Shane Battier. AND that game was on TNT.

There is no rationale for Stern speaking out on this. None.

[Destino]

Does it?

I'm not sure.

Anyway, there is a story not be told here and that is that all leagues are facing a future where attendance is going to be at risk because of technology. I've repeatedly said, I have no idea why anyone ever attends a live sporting event - except for maybe a baseball game. You are spending a small fortune to go through the inconvenience of going someplace to experience an event that is better experienced by sitting at home.

Within the next decade, the challenge for every league is going to be getting people to come to live events. Having teams consciously sabotage the experience is not going to help matters.

Technology is going to be more of a problem for the NFL than it will for the NBA. Football is actually better on TV than it is in person, the cost of attending a game is prohibitive, and NFL stadiums are filled with wildly drunken idiots. The NBA is affordable and in my experience a great time can be had with family or a group of friends.

The problem the NBA has is that, unlike the NFL, they don't understand how to maximize the drama that competition creates. The outcome has to matter and the underdog has to have a chance of winning. The NBA has essentially destroyed both of those things in some ways. The regular season is so long the Spurs gave a game away last night because a single game to them is matters less than resting their stars. That says a lot. The long season and the seven game series structure in the post season boosts the number of tickets that can be sold but it greatly reduces the chances of an underdog surprising people. Football is the exact opposite, every game matter and even in the post season the better team can and often does lose.

The NCAA tournament is how you get people to watch basketball and a perfect example of competition drawing a crowd. Most people that watch it couldn't name a two players on more than three teams and yet people tune in. They fill out their brackets and they have a blast trying to figure out which favorites will lose and when. People like to lie to themselves and say that the college game is somehow more pure. The NBA needs to take the focus off the stars and big dunks and onto the outcome of their games.

[SiCkSoULjA]

Oh, I see....we get to pick and choose when to sanction teams for resting guys. Got it.

Save me the "fans" BS. People paid good money under the premise that Lebron/Bosh/Wade would be playing as well...and they got to see 20 minutes worth of Norris cole, Dexter Pittman, and Shane Battier. AND that game was on TNT.

There is no rationale for Stern speaking out on this. None.

Please, whatever dude people sitting at the end of the season has always happened. Then you add in the shorten season and no training camps or offseason conditioning program and the spurs got a pass last year.

Pop got out of hand not playing his 4 best players on national tv. Trying too play the victim that the league dealt them a impossible schedule when every last team has a long road trip on there schedule. Not playing your best team in November is wrong.

[Destino]

Please, whatever dude people sitting at the end of the season has always happened.

Somehow I doubt that the concept of resting players was born the exact same day the concept of a post season was. It's accepted now as normal though I'll point out the games where players are rested are still televised and the tickets aren't free.

[skinfan2k]

Why doesn't Stern fine those teams who half ass or tank at the end of the season?

[nuposse87]

Why doesn't Stern fine those teams who half ass or tank at the end of the season?

he rigs the lottery instead.