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    • Washington Redskins QB Robert Griffin III was great in the loss to St. Louis. Griffin produced 206 passing yards, 1 TD, and 1 INT for a passer rating of 86.3. However, if you were to add his 8 rushing attempts, 82 rushing yards, and 2 rushing TDs to his passing totals, Griffin’s passer rating would have been 113.3. The latter rating is a better indicator of how RGIII played. This game was gritty, physical, and chippy. He delivered time and again with pressure in his face, showed a veteran’s poise, and refused to acquiesce to the fact that he was a rookie in an emotionally intense environment. With the Redskins trailing late in the 4th quarter, RGIII drove his team down the field and gave them the opportunity to, at the very least, tie the game before Josh Morgan’s unsportsmanlike conduct penalty took the game out of his hands. This guy looks every bit the part of a quarterback who is ready to win now.
    • WR Josh Morgan not only pushed a 47-yard game-tying field goal back to a 62-yard attempt with his penalty, but he also lost a chance to extend the drive by attempting to get out of bounds instead of immediately turning up field and securing the first down. How big of an impact could this have been? Well, even if Morgan still threw the ball at Finnegan after the play, the Redskins would have had a fresh set of downs to work with. Instead of being 4th & 16 at the Rams’ 45 yard-line after the penalty, it would have been 1st & 10 at the Rams’ 44. The penalty would have been stupid, but it wouldn’t necessarily have cost the Redskins the game.
    • While Morgan’s penalty was inexcusably stupid, he is currently the Redskins’ second-most efficient WR (Garcon is first). Morgan was targeted five times by RGIII; he finished with five receptions for 50 yards. Against New Orleans, Morgan was targeted twice with one reception. That means RGIII is currently completing 85.7% of the passes he targets Morgan with. Santana Moss, Leonard Hankerson, Aldrick Robinson, and Dezmon Briscoe all have a lower completion percentage. Morgan is a big piece of this offense and while he’s understandably being vilified for his gaffe at the end of the game, the Redskins are a better team when he’s on the field.
    • Other plays that could have made the difference between winning and losing? Robert Griffin III’s interception with under 2-minutes to go in the first half (turned into 3-points for St. Louis); the punt block against Sav Rocca (turned into Rams TD); dropped 60-yard pass by Aldrick Robinson (pass would have set the Redskins up in the red zone; instead, the drive ended in a punt).
    • The Redskins won the turnover battle for the second time this season, forcing three while only giving up one. Winning the turnover battle is a hallmark of team prepared for season-long success. However, realistically, you have to add two extra plays to the “turnover” statistic that are not currently being counted: the two punt blocks given up by the Special Teams unit. Additionally, the Redskins boast a stat-padding takeaway on their resume: Reed Doughty’s INT on the final Hail Mary attempt by Brees in week 1, which really isn’t an indication of the ability of this defense to force turnovers. If you count the punt blocks and discount Doughty’s INT, the Redskins have four takeaways and three turnovers on the season.
    • The Redskins had 11 penalties for 96 yards against the Rams. They had 12 penalties for 127 yards against the Saints. This many penalties is the exact opposite of a hallmark of a team prepared for season-long success.
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    That Griffin interception wasn't a game changing play in my opinion. It was in the first half and basically gave them 3pts but the refs robbed the Rams of 6 points with that Steven Jackson call. So the points cancel out. Griff was under pressure all day and made a mistake that all QBs make. Now the Aldrick Robinson drop was extremely costly. It's a play that could've broken the Rams spirits! You just can't drop that pass at the NFL level! I hate to say it .. But Anthony Armstrong catches that bomb!
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    Yeah, I'm holding off slamming them for the penalty's until we get the experienced officials back and the woefully inept scabs out of here. It was disconcerting however that we bit to the Rams B/S and got involved on what seemed like almost every play. And the breaks between plays. Regardless of the useless zebras doing nothing to nip that **** in the bud, the staff and senior pro's should of done. That was highly embarrassing and needs fixing pronto.

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    The article is right on all counts.

    I'm thrilled to finally have a legit QB, but we obviously have a lot of work left to do.
    The press asked a Redskins executive about the salary cap penalty and the executive responded, "Ask John Mara." So the press asked Mara and he said, “What they did was in violation of the spirit of the salary cap. "

    Oh I see now, even though there was no actual salary cap in 2010 according to the CBA, the "spirit" of the salary cap still existed. Thanks for clearing that up Mara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s0crates View Post
    The article is right on all counts.

    I'm thrilled to finally have a legit QB, but we obviously have a lot of work left to do.
    I agree with your entire post. A well-written account of the game.
    And we're not gonna be perfect. But despite our challenges, I believe our qb will lead our team well. Shoot, at least we're not calling for his head over one interception.

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    Robinson's drop was the biggest game changing play to me. If he catches that we likely score 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redskins55 View Post
    That Griffin interception wasn't a game changing play in my opinion. It was in the first half and basically gave them 3pts but the refs robbed the Rams of 6 points with that Steven Jackson call. So the points cancel out. Griff was under pressure all day and made a mistake that all QBs make. Now the Aldrick Robinson drop was extremely costly. It's a play that could've broken the Rams spirits! You just can't drop that pass at the NFL level! I hate to say it .. But Anthony Armstrong catches that bomb!
    I've seen Armstrong drop easier throws. I can forgive Robinson after last week when he was on fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redskins55 View Post
    the refs robbed the Rams of 6 points with that Steven Jackson call. So the points cancel out.
    was jackson in? i may have missed another replay, but they one they kept showing had him fighting and the stretching the ball over and at that point they kept highlighting the ball. but at that point he also looked like he was no longer on top of bodies and it looked like his knee may have been down, though i think the view was obscured by players.

    point is, i didnt think there was an angle that concluded one way or another.

    funny thing is, jackson gets benched after losing his cool, exactly the same way that morgan did, which may gave ironically cost the skins the game.

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    you shouldn't need 30+ points to win a game. the defense needs ALOT of work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grego View Post
    was jackson in? i may have missed another replay, but they one they kept showing had him fighting and the stretching the ball over and at that point they kept highlighting the ball. but at that point he also looked like he was no longer on top of bodies and it looked like his knee may have been down, though i think the view was obscured by players.

    point is, i didnt think there was an angle that concluded one way or another.

    funny thing is, jackson gets benched after losing his cool, exactly the same way that morgan did, which may gave ironically cost the skins the game.
    I think you're referring to the play where it was a giant Heathcliff pile up and you couldn't see anything. There was a play when he was in and tey showed an angle of him.
    I can't remember if it was the same play or not, but I remember thinking at the time, the Rams should've had a TD.

    WR Josh Morgan not only pushed a 47-yard game-tying field goal back to a 62-yard attempt with his penalty, but he also lost a chance to extend the drive by attempting to get out of bounds instead of immediately turning up field and securing the first down. How big of an impact could this have been? Well, even if Morgan still threw the ball at Finnegan after the play, the Redskins would have had a fresh set of downs to work with. Instead of being 4th & 16 at the Rams’ 45 yard-line after the penalty, it would have been 1st & 10 at the Rams’ 44. The penalty would have been stupid, but it wouldn’t necessarily have cost the Redskins the game
    OH MAN! I yelled at the TV screen when that happened. He turned left and headed for the sideline. Had he turned around he would've seen no one in front of him. lol or he could've ran backwards 3 steps to the 1st down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s0crates View Post
    The article is right on all counts.

    I'm thrilled to finally have a legit QB, but we obviously have a lot of work left to do.
    I second this...........Griffin III is a rookie and has played in two games. He is the main reason the skins were in this game. It sure wasn't the defense. Anyway the skins are stiil recovering from over a decade of horrible drafting, signings and overall crap management.

    The whole salary cap issue is directly related to efforts to alleviate pains from overpaying and try to push that into the cap free year.

    This is going to take time. You don't give Cerratto free reign for over a decade and expect it to be fixed in a couple of years............however the Skins FINALLY have a FRANCHISE QB!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGIIINATION View Post
    I've seen Armstrong drop easier throws. I can forgive Robinson after last week when he was on fire.
    I'm not saying that receivers don't drop easy passes but the deep ball??? I've never seen Armstrong drop a deep ball. Hankerson also almost dropped that deep ball from RG3 yesterday. We really missed Garçon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinsfan4life83 View Post
    Robinson's drop was the biggest game changing play to me. If he catches that we likely score 7.
    Agreed. And Griff's stats once again hit the sky. Pass was perfectly thrown.

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    I hate to say this, but I was so thoroughly pissed that I really didn't watch the second half. I have a really bad temper and I was afraid I was going to break something in the house. I didn't see the Robinson drop. I barely saw the last couple of plays. I know that sounds bad, but sometimes I need to cool down and not wreck my house. I'm bad at home repairs. BTW, I'll be at the game on Sunday.
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