Expectations/Being Realistic

[skinfan2k]

This is a growing year but anything less than 10 wins next year is a failure.

[John224]

Alright, I get where you are coming from. I am jumping to my negative conclusion way to early.

That goes both way and most redskins fans are coming to their positive conclusions way to early.

[skinsfan07]

Why are you mad at me for giving an honest opinion?

If I turn out to be correct, will you still be mad?

Oh, and you want me to GTFO because I am not loving RG3? You must be joking.

I am starting to think it is not a good idea to disagree with people here.

No, it's not an idea to be ignorant about it. You must not have watched any of our games. RGIII is the best rookie QB right now. To say he will be a bust is moronic and ignorant. Based on what? Enlighten me.

[skinfan2k]

RG3 will down as the best redskins qb in the modern era.

[John224]

How is it ignorant? Ignorant because I disagree with you?

The guy runs too much it only makes sense to say he will be injured on a regular basis.

I never said he himself suck, I don't care how good you are, what kind of a difference can be made from injured reserve?

[Momma There Goes That Man]

I'm sorry. It is not realistic for the defense to fall off the cliff in the way it has. It's in freefall with largely the same group playing. You would have thought that group would either get a little better, stay the same, or get a little worse. Not regress to infancy.

What we're seeing out there is not realistic or reasonable in any fashion. If what we were seeing from the D came from the O side with the oline we have, a rookie qb, and a rookie rb I'd agree that we're being ridiculous, but it's the vet part of our team that is playing and being coached in a clueless fashion.

I agree 100% but have to wonder why it is happening. The players and defense in general are largely the same as last year. The only thing really added is Raheem to coach the secondary. Instead of the defense naturally improving it has taken a huge quantum leap backwards. Ironically Raheem's secondary is hot trash through 3 games. He has to be the difference unless losing Landry and Atogwe are really that much greater of an impact than anybody realized. It has to be Morris as either A) The Problem ie a horrible secondary coach B) A Distraction C) Undermining Haslett D) Caused Haslett to stop caring

---------- Post added September-24th-2012 at 09:14 PM ----------

RG3 will down as the best redskins qb in the modern era.

Try of any era...how is that for being realistic?

[Rabsuz]

I think it is fair to expect the defense to not give up over 30 points per game, and I think it is fair to expect not to hold your breath on punts.

What was not expected (maybe it was) was RG3's stellar play which is ironically getting drowned out from the defense being under fire everywhere, lets not scoff at a total 7 TDs and 1 INT with a 68% completion for nearly 800 yards, that is unheard of for a rookie and we have a star player for once.

The rest of the team (and some of the staff) are letting the offense down is the problem.

[skinfan2k]

How is it ignorant? Ignorant because I disagree with you?

The guy runs too much it only makes sense to say he will be injured on a regular basis.

I never said he himself suck, I don't care how good you are, what kind of a difference can be made from injured reserve?

Because you have no clue what you are talking about. RG3 will be the new prototype QB. I bet in 10 years, there will be about 5-8 more RG3 type of QBs in the NFL.

[John224]

Because you have no clue what you are talking about. RG3 will be the new prototype QB. I bet in 10 years, there will be about 5-8 more RG3 type of QBs in the NFL.

Well you are guessing about what may happen in the future. I am basing my argument over what DID happen in the past and not one quarterback that matches RG3 has been superbowl bound. Hell is there even one quarterback like him in the hall?


And yes, Vick was a okay quarterback, nothing great by any means.

I have to see to believe, so when i see multiple quarterbacks like RG3 tearing up the league then i will agree with you. So you enjoy your "Guessing" game of what a prototype future quarterback will be.

Sounds to me like i am the one who has a clue since I am basing my argument on FACTS based on the past and not illusions based on the future of what you assume will happen.

[skinfan2k]

Well you are guessing about what may happen in the future. I am basing my argument over what DID happen in the past and not one quarterback that matches RG3 has been superbowl bound. Hell is there even one quarterback like him in the hall?


And yes, Vick was a okay quarterback, nothing great by any means.

I have to see to believe, so when i see multiple quarterbacks like RG3 tearing up the league then i will agree with you. So you enjoy your "Guessing" game of what a prototype future quarterback will be.

Sounds to me that i am the one who has a clue since I am basing my argument on FACTS based on the past and not illusions based on the future of what you assume will happen.

Steve Young, John Elway were Mobile QBs.

if you are comparing Vick to RG3, then you dont get it

[Mr. Sinister]

Rex? Is that you?

Hail.

Going by his username, gotta be John Beck...

[BleedBNG]

Can we all just take one moment and review some fact here.

2011 - D = 13th, O = 16th

September 2012 - D = 30th, O = 6th

[John224]

Steve Young, John Elway were Mobile QBs.

if you are comparing Vick to RG3, then you dont get it

Vick is more run first oriented but you can still make a comparison between the two.

Steve Young and John Elway..Two quarterbacks out of how many?

---------- Post added September-24th-2012 at 09:45 PM ----------

I also want to say I am going to be so happy if I am wrong.

[skins island connection]

Vick = 1971 Beetle
RGIII = Bugatti Veyron
Which would you rather have in your garage?

No one expected this defense to be this porous, especially when it was the defense which kept us in quite a few games last year. Overall most of the talent is still here, even with a few players gone, it shouldn't be this bad.
God, how come every time I try to type something it ends up with my distaste for Haslett?

[s0crates]

Steve Young, John Elway were Mobile QBs.

if you are comparing Vick to RG3, then you dont get it

Don't forget Fran Tarkenton.