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    Does Rob Jackson make Orakpo expendable?
    I will let you know when the season i over. I do think Orakpo is now going to have a on going problem with his arm
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    I think we could and should do better. He's not explosive enough.

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    Trade him to St Louis for some picks!!

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    I feel like I'm one of the few that has been overall disappointed by Rak's production. He seems like a guy with the size and speed to be able to be putting up big numbers but is still struggling to adjust to the 3-4 OLB. Then I see a guy like Aldon Smith just tear it up last year, and to a lesser extent, Rak's teammate #91. Rak seems to only have one rush move and if that doesnt work than he cant get to the QB. With all that said, I still think the guy is a talent and I DO believe he can improve.

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    Chris Clemons.

    Just saying.

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    if anything I would trade jackson, especially if he has a 10 sack season an plays light's out get a 3rd or 4th rndr would be nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skins4Life6388 View Post
    I feel like I'm one of the few that has been overall disappointed by Rak's production. He seems like a guy with the size and speed to be able to be putting up big numbers but is still struggling to adjust to the 3-4 OLB. Then I see a guy like Aldon Smith just tear it up last year, and to a lesser extent, Rak's teammate #91. Rak seems to only have one rush move and if that doesnt work than he cant get to the QB. With all that said, I still think the guy is a talent and I DO believe he can improve.
    You do know that almost every player in the 49ers front seven is superior to ours ?? Aldon Smith was not getting double teamed last year. Most likely wont this year. Just Smith eats babies

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-bomb View Post
    if anything I would trade jackson, especially if he has a 10 sack season an plays light's out get a 3rd or 4th rndr would be nice!
    How about we keep rak and jackson and rush all 3 on passing downs ?

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    [QUOTE=BobGriffin;9171913]You do know that almost every player in the 49ers front seven is superior to ours ?? Aldon Smith was not getting double teamed last year. Most likely wont this year. Just Smith eats babies[COLOR="Gold"]

    Oh I know...no debating they're superior. Just stating that he as a rookie already seemed to make the transition much easier, as did Kerrigan. I have nothing against Rak and think he is a fine player, just not that 12-15 sacks a year guy everyone was hoping/expecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobGriffin View Post
    You do know that almost every player in the 49ers front seven is superior to ours ?? Aldon Smith was not getting double teamed last year. Most likely wont this year. Just Smith eats babies[COLOR="Gold"]

    Oh I know...no debating they're superior. Just stating that he as a rookie already seemed to make the transition much easier, as did Kerrigan. I have nothing against Rak and think he is a fine player, just not that 12-15 sacks a year guy everyone was hoping/expecting.
    Can't argue with Aldon's sack numbers but. He was a situational pass rusher however. At this point he is not the complete LB Rak is. Not saying that he can't be but literally all he did last year was pass rush. It's hard to say how good Rak was going to be this year but he was flashing A LOT in the 5-6 quarters he played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    Did you know that Kerrigan, a rookie, drew more Double teams than Rak last year? True story... watch the tape.[COLOR="Gold"]
    I take it this means you've charted all of their snaps from 2011? How many double teams did each player draw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GibbsFactor View Post
    I think we could and should do better. He's not explosive enough.
    Athleticism certainly isn't his problem. He draws more penalties than anyone because he is so fast and powerful.

    There is a lot of bad information in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MustangSteve View Post
    No, I think we should take who is a defensive end and pass rush specialist and put him back to his original position where he could excel and where he belongs. RAK could have been another Dexter Manley if he would have been put in his original position, instead of made to chase around and try to cover WR's and TE's.

    More proof Haslett is a complete idiot.
    while i agree with your statement about haslett, rak was already a LB in 2009, a full year before the new coaching staff. blame greg blache for putting him as a OLB in a 4-3

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    Default Re: Does Rob Jackson make Orakpo expendable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skins4Life6388 View Post
    I have nothing against Rak and think he is a fine player, just not that 12-15 sacks a year guy everyone was hoping/expecting.
    This response is less a response to you and more to this thread, but why can't we be happy with a fine player? Even if he isn't the dominant pass rusher we were hoping for. Why are we on ES always looking to get rid of somebody?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDane View Post
    Chris Clemons.

    Just saying.
    Yeah it's like we are the new Cardinals in the NFCE, lol. Players repeatedly leave and become Pro Bowlers or at least start for several seasons elsewhere. Orakpo would end up on the Pats, Bears, or Chargers and have 2-3 15-20 sack seasons in a row.
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    1.We already dangled Orakpo when trying to trade with St.Louis this offseason.

    2.Orakpo will be a FA after 2013 so time is now to figure out what you have in Jackson

    3.Teams like the Steelers let LBs walk and have replacements all the time

    4.Kerrigan is playing like our best LB right now. How much do you pay Rak when Kerrigan will need a deal shortly after? Bruce has already shown he wont just overpay to keep people. Best LB will be the highest paid LB.

    5. Jackson over the years has always came in and produced so sunday was not a surprise.

    6. People in the organization have wondered what they really have in Jackson

    7. How much if any is Jackson a fall off from Rak has already been discussed at length in Ashburn,

    8. Anyone notice how quick the team removed Orakpo from redskins.com backround once he was injured? A day later they had London up there.

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