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    Default Re: Does Rob Jackson make Orakpo expendable?

    Quote Originally Posted by J-bomb View Post
    can someone break down some film an show these magic double teams that Kerrigan is receiving..I've watched games an I've seen several downs where he is being blocked singly an doesn't beat his man...I don't want to trade anyone but we might not be able to afford Jackson next yr he would be the player to move if we can't sign him.
    I broke down the 2011 game against St. Louis because a poster on here claimed Kerrigan was receiving more double teams than Orakpo. I tried to be as fair as I could with it, it's somewhere near the beginning of this thread. I can't speak to this season but certain players on defense aren't doubled "every play" like some fans seem to think. However Orakpo most of all and Kerrigan second did receive quite a few throughout the game.

    If you dig a little you can find torrents of the games online and take a look at the defensive snaps yourself. I think it took me about an hour to analyze a full game's defensive snaps.

    Someone with the all-22 could probably do a lot better job with this season's games. The tv angles I relied on aren't always the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 View Post
    Oh my God...who gives a ****?? we are fighting over having two good linebackers for ****'s sake...

    Can we just be happy about the fact?
    It's not that. It's that so many members of this fanbase can't accept what is best for the TEAM sometimes because they are so used to bad football they latch on the players that are mediocre and blow them up in their heads to be mega stars. Chris Cooley is the perfect example.

    Orakpo is a good OLB who operates best when he rushes the passer. Rob Jackson is a good (and better than Orakpo) all around linebacker. I've been saying this for months and even into parts of last year.

    Some guys come in here and act like it's a personal insult to the Redskins when you say a depth player is better than one of their heroes... when in reality, they just refuse to be educated. RJax is a better OLB than Orakpo. End of discussion. Does he make Orakpo expendable? Maybe, if the price is right and if Orakpo doesn't come back from his second season ending injury in three games... the same injury at that. Does Orakpo and Jackson make for a better defense? Absolutely, if both are healthy.

    Just chill out on the slamming of Rob Jackson because you don't have his jersey. A lot of you act like he is DeMarcus Ware and that is just not the case.

    Sweet sassy mollassy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laxpunk2006 View Post
    I broke down the 2011 game against St. Louis because a poster on here claimed Kerrigan was receiving more double teams than Orakpo. I tried to be as fair as I could with it, it's somewhere near the beginning of this thread. I can't speak to this season but certain players on defense aren't doubled "every play" like some fans seem to think. However Orakpo most of all and Kerrigan second did receive quite a few throughout the game.

    If you dig a little you can find torrents of the games online and take a look at the defensive snaps yourself. I think it took me about an hour to analyze a full game's defensive snaps.

    Someone with the all-22 could probably do a lot better job with this season's games. The tv angles I relied on aren't always the best.
    That was me.
    Last edited by DC9; December-22nd-2012 at 05:48 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    It's not that. It's that so many members of this fanbase can't accept what is best for the TEAM sometimes because they are so used to bad football they latch on the players that are mediocre and blow them up in their heads to be mega stars.
    Couldn't it be said that's exactly what you're doing?

    (Though, I wouldn't say Jackson is 'mediocre', persay.)

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    Rob Jackson doesn't make Rak expendable. We just happen to have depth in the OLB position. Rak was getting double teamed, hence a good season for Kerrigan last year. This year, the better OLB(Kerrigan) is getting double teamed and creating more opportunities for RJax. Shocker, I know!


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    Quote Originally Posted by KDawg View Post
    Couldn't it be said that's exactly what you're doing?

    (Though, I wouldn't say Jackson is 'mediocre', persay.)
    I don't think so. I'm a RJax fanboy, but in my opinion, he's better for the football team than Orakpo. It's simple... Orakpo has had the same injury twice in three games now... RJax has been a better all around linebacker all year.

    What I'm more reffering to is the posters who really don't come in here with any other reasons than to talk about how great Orakpo is and then fabricate or misconstrue their memories of him. That's all I am saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    I don't think so. I'm a RJax fanboy, but in my opinion, he's better for the football team than Orakpo. It's simple... Orakpo has had the same injury twice in three games now... RJax has been a better all around linebacker all year.
    All year isn't saying much. Rak didn't play very long.

    Rak also isn't asked to do the things Jackson is. Haslett is getting creative now. That said, Jackson is very good at everything he's been asked to do.

    What I'm more reffering to is the posters who really don't come in here with any other reasons than to talk about how great Orakpo is and then fabricate or misconstrue their memories of him. That's all I am saying.
    That's the case with most things. Just be careful what you accuse others of doing. Many think you're doing the same. You're a smart guy. I applaud you for thinking outside the box. Don't mire that with nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDawg View Post
    All year isn't saying much. Rak didn't play very long.
    I think you know what I meant there, lol.


    That's the case with most things. Just be careful what you accuse others of doing. Many think you're doing the same. You're a smart guy. I applaud you for thinking outside the box. Don't mire that with nonsense.
    Yeah, where I am at with this is that we all do it. I'm on the receiving end of a lot of it, but I think sometimes you have to go a little hard to get a point across, especially with some of the responses that are in this thread. Obviously I'm not intending to belittle anyone, but sometimes we need to re-evaluate the way we look at things as well as re-evaluating our approach in how we get our points across. So, point taken.
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    Default Re: Does Rob Jackson make Orakpo expendable?

    props to kerrigan today for finally taking advantage of being singly blocked...props to the d-line for getting necessary pressure!

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    Default Re: Does Rob Jackson make Orakpo expendable?

    From what Jackson showed today, in two words : NO SIR

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    Default Re: Does Rob Jackson make Orakpo expendable?

    solution move to a 4-3

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    No no no no.


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    Default Re: Does Rob Jackson make Orakpo expendable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir L View Post
    solution move to a 4-3
    Why is that a solution?

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    Default Re: Does Rob Jackson make Orakpo expendable?

    Quote Originally Posted by J-bomb View Post
    props to kerrigan today for finally taking advantage of being singly blocked...props to the d-line for getting necessary pressure!


    Allows us to keep all 5 on the field

    Riley, Orakpro, Fletcher, Jackson and Karrigan

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    Default Re: Does Rob Jackson make Orakpo expendable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir L View Post
    Allows us to keep all 5 on the field

    Riley, Orakpro, Fletcher, Jackson and Karrigan
    So the five of them on the field is advantageous no matter their role?

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    Default Re: Does Rob Jackson make Orakpo expendable?

    Quote Originally Posted by KDawg View Post
    So the five of them on the field is advantageous no matter their role?
    Karrigan and Orakpro can play DE

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