That was a brutal 3 games. I noticed there were no hits like that in the Saints game (at least in that clip)
That was a brutal 3 games. I noticed there were no hits like that in the Saints game (at least in that clip)
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I miss the old days, when the mark of a good game was your QB walking into the locker room with a clean jersey. If this continues, he will spend significant time on the bench recovering from various injuries.
We saw him get really beat up in the Cincy game and a little bit in St. Louis, but I doubt that happens again. A lot of the reason those hits took place is because we had the replacement refs who had no control of the players or the game. With the new officials in place he got 2 personal foul calls against Tampa. Teams will notice this and back off a bit. Hopefully the Shannys come up with some new ways to protect him a little more.
Yeah, that hit on his head as he slid was against Texas Tech.
I'd say that Vick, Schaub and Romo have all been rocked much harder than Griffin so far. They did a good job of limiting the hits quite a bit against the Bucs. It's still a feeling out process.
They ran the option a lot. It wasn't as much as they did against the Bengals, but still, it was a lot more than "a few times". You're wrong, which isn't too surprising.
The biggest difference was, this time, he handed the ball off to Morris a bit more and he made sure to put his hands up once he did so the refs would protect him from getting hit. That's it. And that was something the Shanahan's talked to him about. In terms of play calling, the difference wasn't as big as you think.
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Yes, exactly. It's actually hilarious some of the times. I used to absolutely HATE when QBs did that but now that our QB is doing it I love it. Fanhood is funny.![]()
Originally Posted by Mike Shanahan
You could do one of these reels for just about nay NFL QB they all get hit quite a bit.
People keep worrying about him getting injured, which is a legit concern. But people act like he can't take a hit without getting snapped in half, when it looks like the exact opposite. After every single bone crushing hit he gets up and gets back into the huddle, his toughness is incredibly underrated, he is a man and a football player he does not need to play scared and does not need to be coddled into playing looking across his shoulder. He is durable and tough, he can take these hits. But as a fan I would rather not have my QB taking any hits, no matter who it is.
What happens when RG3 slides 5 yards before he went down in the Bucanneers game (in the final drive)? If he did that I guarantee someone on the roster wouldn't have a job right now.
RG3 is adjusting to the speed of the game. Shanny is adjusting to RG3. Both of these points have allowed for a few more hits during the first four games. As both adjust, I expect the "unnecessary hits" to fade rather quickly.
A few of these hits are good for the team. When guys see him get crushed, bounce back up, clap and rejoin the huddle it has a trickle down effect on the other guys.
All rookies take a beating early on. Anyone remember Eli's first series against the Eagles? Welcome to the league, rookie. Now let's take the Falturds to the woodshed on Sunday.![]()
Yeah, all of the hand wringing about RGIII's durability is absurd. You can't predict injuries and there's little you can do to prevent the serious ones. You never know which hit is going to do you in. It could be someone rolling into your leg after getting blocked following a throw you planted on in the pocket that takes your season away. Tom Brady got his knee wrecked on such a play, as one of the least hit QBs in the league playing behind one of the league's best offensive lines.
The fact of the matter is RGIII is no more likely to get hurt than any other QB in the league, and there really isn't factual support for the claim that QBs who run the ball get more serious injuries than other QBs. Serious QB injuries come when they are stationary in the pocket.
There's a double standard in play with RGIII, and whether people realize it or not, they question RGIII's toughness when they fuss over his health as he takes the hits other QBs have to.
Why don't people do the same with Aaron Rodgers? He gets hit even more and they're similar players. And he's actually missed time due to injury before.
---------- Post added October-4th-2012 at 11:01 PM ----------
What?
QBs used to get killed in the "old days." QBs are far more protected now than ever.
---------- Post added October-4th-2012 at 10:59 PM ----------
What?
QBs used to get killed in the "old days." QBs are far more protected now than ever.
---------- Post added October-4th-2012 at 11:05 PM ----------
Personally, I think it's good to take a hit that hurts like hell and then get back up from it. Takes the fear away and gets the juices flowing. Wakes you up. That's contact sports.
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You better go back and watch the game. The only time they ran a "true" option is when he drew a 15 yd penalty against Tampa. Outside of that they might have run FIVE times. Those five times could barely qualify as the "option" because he handed the ball to Morris and barely tried to sell that he had the ball. So yeah, they only "ran" the option a "few" times.
But hey, you let your dislike for me get in the way of actual facts and tried to prove me wrong and you failed, miserably. "Which isn't too surprising."![]()
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Last edited by KingGibbs; October-5th-2012 at 09:00 AM.
Tough SOB...unfortunately. the offense is designed to have him always an option. That puts him in position to take hits...
I haven't been able to really watch or listen to the games this year. On that last clip who got the penalty? was it RGIII or the defender?
I'm with you on this. The hits that he can brace for are not worrisome. It is the ones like the Manny Lawson hit on the option at 1:38. The Cincy game was by far the worst for him taking hits. He will learn how to take less and less punishment as he goes.
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Yeh seriously. I will say that Griffin was tied for second with Rodgers for most knockdowns, Vick way out in front. I'm guessing Kolb moved up on that list last night, though. Griffin is pretty much in the middle of the pack for sacks taken, so he is getting the ball out. That number will go down. Anyways It really isn't as big of a deal as people are making it.
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Not sure what you mean by saying he handed the ball to Morris so that would barely qualify as an option...
They did not run it much though. But that first play where the defender picked him up and buried him in the ground was an option play, I think that is why they went away from it a bit.
I meant that he didn't try to sell it as hard as he did in the Cincy game. He basically handed the ball to Morris and then took one or two steps and stopped versus running with/without the ball or pitching the ball like he did against Cincy and that caused him to get blown up a couple of times.
I pointed out the the play you mentoned and thank you for confirming that they indeed did NOT run the option but a few times.
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