All thoughts are not threads: Jaws on RGIII, your opinion

[Teller]

I was listening to Mike & Mike on my way to work this morning, as I usually do. They had Ron Jaworski on, talking about his quarterback rankings RIGHT NOW. Not who's the best QB in the NFL, but which guys are playing the best football at this moment.

He had RGIII at #17, and felt like that was generous, "nearly putting him in the top half of the league."

I couldn't help but give that an out-loud "WTF?" I understand that RGIII isn't a top-5 quarterback in this league...yet. But IMHO, he's certainly playing like it right now.

He's #4 in QBR, 16th in rushing, led the game-winning drive last week without the speaker in his helmet, has thrown ONE interception, and has completely changed the culture of this team.

My question to you is simple. Where do you put our rookie signal-caller among NFL quarterbacks, based on his play at this moment? I say #5, at worst.

HAIL.

[pjfootballer]

Top 10, not top 5. I think the TD passes need to increase.

[illone]

He's #`1 in Fantasy Points and #1 in a DC's worst nightmare ever.

I'd put him top 5 without a doubt.

[rookieskin]

I'd say that he is the #1 QB so far on this team....

But Cousins has a Ton of potential.....

Maybe if Roberts stock gets real high we could re-coup a couple 3rd rounders or maybe even a 2nd rounder to make up for those 1sts we traded away.......

It so comforting that we have a proven Super BOwl Winning QB waiting in the wings in case the rookie stumbles in the form of Rex.
If Rex were starting JAWS would probably rank him higher.

I kid, I kid..... : )

[newday]

He needs to be able to throw pinpoint into single coverage with pressure in his face, esp. on third downs. He is being cautious right now to avoid drive killing interceptions. It will come with more reps, esp. with Garcon and Davis. Hank still needs to get more aggressive fighting for the ball to earn his QB's confidence. But as the WRs evolve and RG3 feels more comfortable making risky throws, he will move up the ranks.

He's doing some amazing things for sure. But as a pure passer, in my book he's not Top 10 yet.

[rookieskin]

I hope my sarcasm meter was supposed to peg on that last couple of sentences there, rookieskin.

I hope those last 2 sentences pegged your meter, and conveyed my opinion of JAWS opinion.

[Teller]

I hope my sarcasm meter was supposed to peg on that last couple of sentences there, rookieskin.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

I hate Jaws. Hes the biggest idiot in the world. He prob had Vick 2 and Foles 3 or 4...so glad he is no longer doing the Monday night game..

[rookieskin]

I hope my sarcasm meter was supposed to peg on that last couple of sentences there, rookieskin.

I hope those last 2 sentences pegged your meter, and conveyed my opinion of JAWS opinion.

[skinsmarydu]

to kinda quote the article on nfl.com about his headset going out...
Defenses can't stop RGIII. Neither can faulty technology. We're the happiest 2-2 team in the league.
I love that and he's definitely performing. Of course, I rank him #1...he's my quarterback, and I'm a little biased.

[Teller]

I hope those last 2 sentences pegged your meter, and conveyed my opinion of JAWS opinion.

Just caught me off guard a little, because the comments on Cousins made sense -- though I don't want to trade him.

[Vladimir L]

Not top 5 Shanny kind of has him handcuffed in the redzone he just runs him.

I guess teams will start spying him and will open things up more in the redzone.

[kevinklein]

Top 10, not top 5. I think the TD passes need to increase.

Pretty much this, exactly.

[Bliz]

I was listening to Mike & Mike on my way to work this morning, as I usually do. They had Ron Jaworski on, talking about his quarterback rankings RIGHT NOW. Not who's the best QB in the NFL, but which guys are playing the best football at this moment.

He had RGIII at #17, and felt like that was generous, "nearly putting him in the top half of the league."

I couldn't help but give that an out-loud "WTF?" I understand that RGIII isn't a top-5 quarterback in this league...yet. But IMHO, he's certainly playing like it right now.

He's #4 in QBR, 16th in rushing, led the game-winning drive last week without the speaker in his helmet, has thrown ONE interception, and has completely changed the culture of this team.

My question to you is simple. Where do you put our rookie signal-caller among NFL quarterbacks, based on his play at this moment? I say #5, at worst.

HAIL.

...and he's #11 in ESPN's QBR. For whatever that's worth.

Yeah, like pjfootballer said. Top 10 but not top 5 is about right. 17 is insane. And certainly not generous. It's on ESPN insider, if anyone wants to post it. FWIW, his explanation, before getting into the rankings themselves. Sounds to me like this is NOT just how they have played this season. But also takes historical performance into account

Four games may not seem like much of a sample, but in the reality of the 16-game NFL, it is a key number. Not only does that represent the quarter pole for the season, but when teams break down film to prep for upcoming games, they scrutinize their opponents' previous four games. It's a rubric I've followed in my career and as an analyst, and I'm going to use it to help guide my QB Big Board.

This ranking is not an end-all-be-all, permanent evaluation. Guys will improve -- and regress -- and that movement will be represented on this ranking every four weeks. What this QB Big Board does is combine a quarterback's historical performance with how he is playing at a certain time of the season to form a ranking of the NFL's top quarterbacks at that moment.

There are a few changes to my previous list, including how I generated it. Last offseason, I watched every throw of every NFL quarterback from 2011 to generate my initial rankings. Due to time constraints, I can't make that same claim now. Rest assured, though, that this list is the product of regular film study from the NFL Films offices each week.

Previously I omitted all of the rookies from the preseason rankings, because you can't properly evaluate where they fit when they've never thrown a pass against an NFL defense. Now that we've seen a sample of their talents -- albeit a small one -- I've added them to the mix. And let's just say it's an impressive debut for Robert Griffin III.

RG3 makes his debut at No. 17, meaning he's just outside the top half of NFL quarterbacks. Honestly, I never thought I'd rank a rookie this high. The trouble is, Griffin has not played like a rookie. What separates him from his first-year peers is his consistency. Andrew Luck and Ryan Tannehill have made some great plays in their young careers, but they've also made some bad ones. I haven't seen that erratic play when it comes to Griffin, hence his extraordinary debut ranking.

Erratic play has plagued a couple of veterans, which is why Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Cassel and Jay Cutler are among the biggest drops on my board. Protecting the football is the most important thing you can do as a quarterback. If you lose the turnover battle by one or more, you lose the game 80 percent of the time. It's as simple as that. And it's one thing to make bad reads and bad decisions as a rookie. But at this point in their careers, those three have no excuse.

But there is better news for a few others. And even if Aaron Rodgers has not looked as dominant as he did during his fantastic 2011 campaign, he remains at the top of my rankings. Let's get into some details.

[dballer]

Jaws is an iggle...ranking RG3 17th is absurd. He has definitely been playing like a top 10 QB...not to mention he has only had his #1 target healthy for about a quarter so far this year.