All thoughts are not threads: Jaws on RGIII, your opinion

[MattFancy]

The only QB I would take over RG3 right now is Rodgers. Ryan is okay, but he aint that mobile and I think he is just the by-product of those three monsters he is working with. But these three quarterbacks are clearly playing the best football right now, with all due respect to Peyton, Eli, Rivers, and Brady.

I wouldn't dismiss Ryan so quickly. He was putting up good numbers before and Roddy White didn't really start coming around until Ryan was drafted there. He's really good.

But of the QBs right now I'd take over RG3: Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Peyton, Ryan.

[DogofWar1]

Meh.



Honestly 17th after only 4 games? Not too shabby. Remember when Cassel went 11-5? Or Kolb looked good enough to get a 2nd rounder traded for him?

If he's still putting up top 5 QB stats after 16 games, then 17th would be mildly offensive, but after only 4 games, it's not too bad. He's got to be consistently good.

[HeluCopter29]

No doubt he's top 5 only four games into the season.

I don't mind #17 though considering he's only played four games. Talk to me when we've played all 16 games.

[MLSKINS]

I wouldn't dismiss Ryan so quickly. He was putting up good numbers before and Roddy White didn't really start coming around until Ryan was drafted there. He's really good.

But of the QBs right now I'd take over RG3: Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Peyton, Ryan.

Roddy White in 2007 (Year before Matty Ice) 83 Rec 1,202 Yards 6 TDs. I think he was around before Ryan

But yeah, Ryan is a good QB. With that being said, I should have said that I was basing my opinion on age, Redskins offensive scheme, etc....

[MattFancy]

Roddy White in 2007 (Year before Matty Ice) 83 Rec 1,202 Yards 6 TDs. I think he was around before Ryan

But yeah, Ryan is a good QB. With that being said, I should have said that I was basing my opinion on age, Redskins offensive scheme, etc....

Oops you are right. For some reason I didn't think White really took off until Ryan got there. But either way, Ryan is still a very good QB.

[Enter Apotheosis]

I'm okay with Griffin being ranked 17th if Jaws is taking a more measured approach to appraising the rookies and moving them up the list as he appears to be.

[NewCliche21]

I thought we were answering this question: Where do you put our rookie signal-caller among NFL quarterbacks, based on his play at this moment?

How are people still missing this?

"Only four games" is the ENTIRE sample size.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

I'd put him at 15 simply because he's a work in progress. I personally would never feel comfortable ranking newbies up high. If this trend continues for the full season I'd put him at 10. If he does it again next year then yeah, I'd put him in the elite category.

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"Only four games" is the ENTIRE sample size.

Too small a sample size for me. The other QBs have past performance to hinge on. For a rookie to be in the middle of the pack is phenomenal though.

[isle-hawg]

I respect Jaws and appreciate his analysis. As I read it in context it is very complementary towards RG3. Power polls are interesting to read, but frankly who cares. I think my friends we have our first franchise QB since Sonny, I would not say RG3 is the best player in the league today, however if I was GM of the team there is not another player in the league I would remotely consider trading him for.

[rskin72]

Look, this is just one person's opinion. I don't read negative here from Jaws, and rgiii is ranked ahead of the other rookies. I like Jaws perspective most of the time.....but like any talking head sometimes I agree with their offerings and sometimes not.

I got more upset that some espn moron claimed that they would take Romo over rgiii.......r u kidding me??? Whoever made that statement deserves derision.....but it fits into the cowgirl and romo bias displayed by the majority of espn folks.

[BleedBNG]

What does Jaws know? He had John Beck as having great potential as a QB in this league on draft day.

And seriously ESPN... you think the Cowboys are 3 spots better than us in the rankings?

[bowhunter]

Well the OP said the Jaworski piece was based on "Not who's the best QB in the NFL, but which guys are playing the best football at this moment." So Rookie or not, RGIII is TOP 5, Period, end of sentence. 17 is a ridiculously low rank, if it is in fact based upon "Not who's the best QB in the NFL, but which guys are playing the best football at this moment."
I understand the conservative ranking remarks about all-time elite, only 4 games into the season, he's still a rookie, etc. In fact I agree with the spirit of most of them. But if the article is based upon "Not who's the best QB in the NFL, but which guys are playing the best football at this moment." Well then I disagree with Robert being given a bottom half rank

[RandyHolt]

He has done this without who is clearly our #1 WR for all but one quarter' in that mere quarter, it was clear they had obvious chemistry.

I would consider him somewhere between 5 and 10 going into week 5. I really think Garcon in the other 3.75 games, we win at least one of those 2 loses.

Ryan is a top 5er damn good, this is the perfect test to see him hanging with a big boy. Having Garcon at full go will certainly make that matchup a little closer.

[Rhodus333]

There are barely 16 players in the league playing better than RG3 right now let alone 16 QBs.

This is the truth. His one area of improvement with more passing TDs will increase with Garcon back

[wildbill1952]

Jaws is an ex-QB. A guy that was a #17 type QB when the league only had 24 teams. I sense a little jealousy.

Having said that, like most analysts, he's going to give the 4-0 and 3-1 QB slightly more respect, because keeping track of wins and losses is way lots easier than actually doing analysis that might require some work on his part. And of course, he played for a team that only sniffed the losing side of the super bowl once, and then only after he was no longer the QB. He now gets his jollies by cutting down his betters.

But I admit, I sure would like to see what RG III's Jaws rating would be if the OL gave him a lot more time back there.