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    He probably meant to say that Vick should be 17th

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    Yeah, initially I thought we were just ranking play at this point in the season, but Jaws' ranking is best QB in the league taking everyone's career into account and a lot of these guys have done a lot more for longer. I think #17 is pretty good. Hopefully we'll see him rise to the top, but I wouldn't expect it in one season. I think it's great that after 4 games he's at 17 when he's still a rookie.

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    I think right now 17th best is essentially fair. He just doesn't have the games under his belt yet. I look for his ranking to rise week to week. Is it 17 though? I dont know, maybe 12 or something. Point is, I don't dismiss jaws as a hater or anything


    Now that said, is there another QB in the entire league I would trade him for? Absolutely not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rookieskin View Post
    I'd say that he is the #1 QB so far on this team....

    But Cousins has a Ton of potential.....

    Maybe if Roberts stock gets real high we could re-coup a couple 3rd rounders or maybe even a 2nd rounder to make up for those 1sts we traded away.......
    IIIIt so comforting that we have a proven Super BOwl Winning QB waiting in the wings in case the rookie stumbles in the form of Rex.
    If Rex were starting JAWS would probably rank him higher.

    Not so sure if I should take this serious or even waste my time re-quoting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattFancy View Post
    I wouldn't dismiss Ryan so quickly. He was putting up good numbers before and Roddy White didn't really start coming around until Ryan was drafted there. He's really good.

    But of the QBs right now I'd take over RG3: Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Peyton, Ryan.
    This is just misinformed, White had 1200 yards receiving the year before Ryan got there...

    I would take Ryan if we consider the rest of the team, but if we're saying same personnel then I'm taking RG3.

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    So far RG3 has improved each week. Lets see at the end of the season where he is ranked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    I think right now 17th best is essentially fair. He just doesn't have the games under his belt yet. I look for his ranking to rise week to week. Is it 17 though? I dont know, maybe 12 or something. Point is, I don't dismiss jaws as a hater or anything


    Now that said, is there another QB in the entire league I would trade him for? Absolutely not.
    I finally listened to the broadcast of Jaws making those comments -- he was actually big time enthusiastic in making those comments, sayings its rare for him to have a QB ranked that high so fast. The way he made that point he seem to be implying rookie QBs are generally at the bottom of his list until they prove themselves over time, but in 4 games he's already prepared to put him ahead of about half the QBs in the league who have taken years to learn their craft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrelgreenie View Post
    Wait, so you're gonna dismiss all the other areas where Griffin and the offense are killin it, but focus on the one area where the offense is average?

    btw-the offense 3rd down struggles pre-date Griffin, imo its more a Kyle issue then a Griffin issue and if the object is to score points and gain yards and the offense is 3rd/4th in those areas low 3rd down efficiency becomes less meaningful
    No, I'm not dismissing them at all just making a point regarding 3rd and long. I was just thinking about all the other QB's in the league and how there has to be more than 9 others that are playing very well right now. You have to admit it's tough to rank a rookie QB in the top 10. Yes, the offense struggles and here's a good point regarding Griffin that should be brought up. Due to his abilities the skins are rarely in 3rd and long situations. The running game is very strong with either Morris or the option (as much as we all hate to see him hit). If the skins can avoid stupid penalties and stay in manageable situations on 3rd down I think the skins will win more games.

    Also, I love Griffins deep ball. We haven't seen that in DC for a long time. I didn't mean my original statement to be a knock on Griffin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjfootballer View Post
    Top 10, not top 5. I think the TD passes need to increase.
    He's got 4 rushing TDs... tied for first in the league (along with Alfred Morris)
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    Ron Jaworski? Moving on...


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    I think this is interesting as well
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    I'm cool with it. His 3rd down conversion rate is not that good and he doesn't have a lot of passing TD's. As long as he's the #1 rated rookie on his board, I'm not going to get worked up about 17. He is a rookie and it is only 4 games. If he keeps playing this well for 16 games and Jaws still has him 17th, then we can cry foul.

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    Griffin is not a top 10 QB yet. He has that potential but he isn't even close right now. He is still a rookie. What he does give us right now is that "anything can happen feeling".

    In my opinion, he will be a top 10 QB when we can sit back and *know* when we are down 7 in the 4th, that he *will* bring the team down the field.

    That's how I see the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destructis View Post
    Griffin is not a top 10 QB yet. He has that potential but he isn't even close right now. He is still a rookie. What he does give us right now is that "anything can happen feeling".

    In my opinion, he will be a top 10 QB when we can sit back and *know* when we are down 7 in the 4th, that he *will* bring the team down the field.

    That's how I see the difference.
    I already got that feeling. And actually he has proven it these pass 3 weeks.

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