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    Default Yahoo News (AP): Congressman calls evolution lie from 'pit of hell'

    Stereotype-enabled: He's a republican and a southerner. Somewhere you know there must be an elected democrat politician who's qualified for such press and is being neglected.

    And he's an MD.

    http://news.yahoo.com/congressman-ca...175514039.html

    ATHENS, Ga. (AP) — Georgia Rep. Paul Broun said in videotaped remarks that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are "lies straight from the pit of hell" meant to convince people that they do not need a savior. The Republican lawmaker made those comments during a speech Sept. 27 at a sportsman's banquet at Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell. Broun, a medical doctor, is running for re-election in November unopposed by Democrats.

    "God's word is true," Broun said, according to a video posted on the church's website. "I've come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. And it's lies to try to keep me and all the folks who are taught that from understanding that they need a savior."

    Broun also said that he believes the Earth is about 9,000 years old and that it was made in six days. Those beliefs are held by fundamentalist Christians who believe the creation accounts in the Bible to be literally true.

    <Jumbo edit---here's the damage-control disclaimer> Broun spokeswoman Meredith Griffanti told the Athens Banner-Herald (http://bit.ly/Us4O0Z ) that Broun was recorded speaking off-the-record to a church group about his religious beliefs.

    <Jumbo underlined and bolded>--->He sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.


    < not much more at link >

    this was supposed to link to the video, but it seems it's just an interesting banquet promo page with Broun as guest--very camo/NRA friendly


    http://libertybc.ws/ministries/sportsmanBanquet.cfm
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    Default Re: Yahoo News (AP): Congressman calls evolution lie from 'pit of hell'

    Dear everyone,

    We're not with him.

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    Most Christians in America, especially those from mainline denominations

    I think ASF can back me up here.
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    Default Re: Yahoo News (AP): Congressman calls evolution lie from 'pit of hell'

    I guess it's okay for politicians to pander. That's what they do, but you got to imagine his medical colleagues are just embarrassed as heck

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebluefood View Post
    Dear everyone,

    We're not with him.

    Signed,
    Most Christians in America, especially those from mainline denominations

    I think ASF can back me up here.
    I think many such can, and that's something we can all be grateful for unless you're of Mr. Broun's mindset.
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    Far be it from me to argue with a man of science

    so is the pit of hell Atlanta,or is that just a franchise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgold View Post
    I guess it's okay for politicians to pander. That's what they do, but you got to imagine his medical colleagues are just embarrassed as heck
    I bet he's not just pandering. I bet he's fairly sincere, after reading up a bit.

    I know it's not how we run the Big Top, but I'd have that guy off the damn science committees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twa View Post
    Far be it from me to argue with a man of science
    He's no "man of science. "

    And you will argue with anyone.
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    So what the hell does he do when he is in a session with the Science, Space and Technology Committee? Just sit there and frown a lot when others mention anything too sciencey?

    It really befuddles me when I come upon people who have such fundamentalist views regarding areas of science that clash with their beliefs, yet are part of a profession that relies completely on science itself. Obviously the brain is quite adept at selective reasoning and self-deception in these circumstances but it still seems hard to stretch it THAT far.

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    His wife is attractive.

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    mistertim, the human brain (and human behavior) is an amazing thing.

    To paraphrase The Bard

    What a piece of work is a man, How noble in Reason, how infinite in faculties, and yet how like an absolute Igwad in so many ways.
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    Default Re: Yahoo News (AP): Congressman calls evolution lie from 'pit of hell'

    Actually, this guy sounds like a preacher that comes to our campus from time to time. I know him and his wife on a personal level. He's...a throwback, shall we say. This sounds like something he'd say.
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    Default Re: Yahoo News (AP): Congressman calls evolution lie from 'pit of hell'

    What bothers me isn't so much that there exist people who can say things like that.

    It's not the fact that people who say things like that aren't institutionalized.

    It's that saying things like that doesn't have consequences.

    It's the fact that people can say things like that, and a majority of the people will say "I want him to represent me".
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebluefood View Post
    Actually, this guy sounds like a preacher that comes to our campus from time to time. I know him and his wife on a personal level. He's...a throwback, shall we say. This sounds like something he'd say.
    Such "throwbacks" are still far more popular with far more supporters to a far greater degree than I care to envision (likely to the tune of at least a couple million holding much the same thoughts). I remain very grateful his views as expressed are not the majority views of the our overall Christian population, and even more grateful that those Christians are able to advocate their faith without turning time back to darker ages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebluefood View Post
    Dear everyone,

    We're not with him.

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    Most Christians in America, especially those from mainline denominations

    I think ASF can back me up here.
    Yep, a friend of mine posted this earlier today and my reply was "what a strange time we live in where the Trinity is seen as optional and literal seven day creation is held as absolute doctrine." As early as th 4th century AD Origen denounced the literal seven day creation account as nonsense which would be shown false even with a simple reading of the texts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry View Post
    It's the fact that people can say things like that, and a majority of the people will say "I want him to represent me".
    And yet it's a big reality and it's a relativity free society. They get to be represented if they can pull it off within the system. It's fair. That's why it must be fairly fought IMO. You can't assume it will "not matter" because it's "just a small percentage of one religion." It''s not a truly small group or a mainly disenfranchised group, and they can and do influence as is their right. If a majority of people don't share their message and don't want to see it ascend, it should not be ignored or overlooked or minimized or they gain ground (as most studies suggest they have here in recent decades).

    Have to keep your eye on 'em and stay aware---just like with the commies.
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