Do you Feel the cause of R3G getting hurt is due to Kyles game plan, run run run.

[Skinsfan4life83]

Running the quarterback all the time will turn him into a injury prone bust.

Now is the time for the great people of this site to call me ignorant and call for me to be banned.

Nah. I'll just call your opinion what it is. Ridiculous.

Griffins carries have diminished each week. So playcalling isn't to blame. I mean he only ran two times this game. He happened to take a shot on the second one. Scrambling is part of his game. Deal with it.

[rumpshakers]

A rather large man in an Atlanta Falcons uniform was the cause of RG3's injury.

Bob needs to learn how to get out of bounds, self preservation

[Phat Hog]

Bob needs to learn how to get out of bounds, self preservation

Totally agree, he could have avoided that hit..totally understand his desire to get a score but sometimes it's just not there.

[Marshskins44]

Griff made a mistake...it's okay to admit it

I have to agree. Toss the ball away. A half a yard more wasn't going to matter and it got him hurt. This comes with experience. He will learn from this mistake, and be a better QB.
Hail.

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Jesus ****ing Christ.

That is the most ridiculous thread title of all-time.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!

[SKINSFAN87]

Everybody is so quick to blame kyle shanahan for RG3's woes, this injury is on RG3 and him only. He should have ran out of bounds or have thrown the ball away instead of taking that viscous hit. I love his courage and toughness, but now it's time to be smart.

[DC9]

this one wasn't on Kyle. There were guys open on this play early and Griff held the ball too long. He should've sailed it out of the end zone or thrown it at someone's feet. That said, I won't fault him for trying to make something happen.

As far as Kyle's playcalling goes, I do wish he would've done something different inside the 10... Morris got one touch and it was that weird direct snap play. We road him the whole way down there and then forgot about him.

[skins4eva]

No, your agenda is that Kyle sucks as an OC, despite everything that points to the contrary.

Completely incorrect. My view is that Kyle's play calling leaves much to be desired and he has no real sense of the flow of the game. His play calling is often very disjointed like it was today. I've also pointed out that we are last in the nfl in third down conversions. That's the mark of any good offense and we are last in the league. Is Kyle the worst OC out there? No. Do I think Shanahan could have done better? Yes I do. And if anyone thinks it's a good idea for an nfl coach to hire his child as a coordinator they are insane. There's a reason it isn't done in this league. How could mike ever be expected to fire Kyle? It wouldnt happen even if it were deserved. That's called nepotism.

[Skinz4Life12]

honestly, there were several key opportunities that I wish we would have called a designed run with Griffin. when Morris was gashing them on first and second downs, they are obviously going to start keying in on him leaving RG3 wide open to pick up huge chunks of yards with relative ease. I hope we don't eliminate designed runs altogether because I still believe Griffin should have a handful of designed runs a game which will help open up our passing game as well as keeping a D from focusing only on Morris

[TheCoach22]

NO, and YES...

The hit was the cause of the injury and RGIII allowed himself to be hit by trying to keep a play alive that was dead in the water. Now, that said... the play calling has yet to find balance. I think there were chances against Atlanta to run RGIII safely -- i.e. after opening the game with 27 yards from Alf on two carries, a playaction bootleg with a run/throw deep option is safer than the called play which left him exposed in the pocket. Another example, the inability to convert third downs might have been solved with a welltimed playfake and keeper that allowed the QB to see would-be tacklers and slide. I think it is a fine line between using the man's gifts and holding him back. The game plan against the Falcons held him back -- no deep shots, no run options -- and as a result the man tried to make a play when one was not there. In general the redzone playcalling leaves a lot to be desired. The snap to Alf was dead in the water... should have been a fake draw, pull back and throw to any WR... they were looking QB draw. I have confidence they can solve it all by week 7 or 8. My guess is also that RGIII will play this week against the Vikes. HTTR!

[Hitman21ST]

Completely incorrect. My view is that Kyle's play calling leaves much to be desired and he has no real sense of the flow of the game. His play calling is often very disjointed like it was today. I've also pointed out that we are last in the nfl in third down conversions. That's the mark of any good offense and we are last in the league. Is Kyle the worst OC out there? No. Do I think Shanahan could have done better? Yes I do. And if anyone thinks it's a good idea for an nfl coach to hire his child as a coordinator they are insane. There's a reason it isn't done in this league. How could mike ever be expected to fire Kyle? It wouldnt happen even if it were deserved. That's called nepotism.

You have no idea about the playcalling. You're not in on the meetings, so you have no clue if it was "disjointed" or just setting up future plays. You're really just driving the anti-KS agenda.

Maybe the reason is hasn't been done is because Mike and Kyle are the first father-son combo to be coaching in the NFL at the same time?

And considering Mike let Kyle make a name for himself on his own, and then hired him, nepotism has nothing to do with it. Kyle is viewed as one of the brightest young offensive minds in the NFL. The only thing their relationship did was give us another reason for him to want to come here. We wouldn't have gotten him if he weren't very qualified. You're just speculating that Mike would never fire Kyle, and that speculation is driven by your agenda that Kyle isn't a good OC.

[bradboyd80]

It definitely isn't Kyle's fault. Hopefully RG3 spends the week (if cleared of course) learning how to slide. He did slide, but it was too late and was a bit half-ass. It's on the QB coach to teach him self-preservation, and what to do when the play is blown. He should have stayed upright and ran out, or threw it away.

[Voice_of_Reason]

There seem to be several arguments going on here.

1. Kyle was hired only because he was Mike's son.
2. Kyle called too many QB runs and thus got RGIII hurt
3. Kyle didn't call enough runs with Morris.
4. The Texans got worse when Kyle left.
5. Kyle is responsible for the Kennedy Assassination.
6. Cundiff missing the FG is the reason that RGIII got hurt.

I'm going to invoke "Occam's razor," which states "that among competing hypotheses, the one which makes the fewest assumptions should be selected." Said another way, the simplest answer is probably the best.

RGIII got hurt because he got hit in the head by a large man on a broken play. There's really nothing more to it than that. The play was broken, he tried to scramble, he failed to get down or out of bounds, and he got leveled. It happens to QBs all the time. Mobile ones and non-mobile ones.

Kyle was a very good OC in Houston and ran the same offense that Mike taught in Denver. He was a natural fit. Was there some "he's my son" going on? Probably. But if Kyle ran the wishbone, I doubt he would have been brought in here.

At least in this game, I don't know if there was 1 called QB run. If there was, it was only 1.

The biggest reason that the 'Skins didn't have more running plays with Morris is that they couldn't convert on 3rd downs. So this has become their Achilles heel. Ok. I'm ok with that. Rookie QB, known passing situation. He's not Joe Montana in his 4th game. And, if Garcon and Davis stop dropping freaking 3rd down passes, that statistic would improve. Maybe they couldn't catch because it was wet. I dunno.

Who really cares about the offensive output of the Texans with or without Kyle? They've been building that team for 5 years, and they're very good on all sides of the ball. They are a complete team.

Cundiff missing the FG was terrible. But I don't think that when RGIII went off running he was thinking about the score. My guess he was just being a player.

I personally believe that Kyle was not responsible for the Kennedy assassination just because he wasn't born yet. But that's just me.

[skins4eva]

Maybe the reason is hasn't been done is because Mike and Kyle are the first father-son combo to be coaching in the NFL at the same time?

And considering Mike let Kyle make a name for himself on his own, and then hired him, nepotism has nothing to do with it. Kyle is viewed as one of the brightest young offensive minds in the NFL. The only thing their relationship did was give us another reason for him to want to come here. We wouldn't have gotten him if he weren't very qualified. You're just speculating that Mike would never fire Kyle, and that speculation is driven by your agenda that Kyle isn't a good OC.

And your agenda is that he's a great OC and apparently is above criticism. I've already dispatched with the "everyone thinks he's a brilliant young mind" argument. See Josh Mcdaniels and basically any other Bill B. protege. You don't seem capable of actually using facts to support your position. I've outlined why I think Kyle is a weak OC. I don't have an agenda. I have a wife a kid and a job. I just love this team and am pointing out what I see as a glaring weakness in coaching. And I respect the fact that you disagree but don't insist that i have an agenda. It doesn't even make any sense in this context. It's not as though I know Kyle.

[newday]

RG3 is reluctant to throw into tight windows. He also hesitates to dump it off to Fred Davis when the WRs are covered.

It's Robert's fault. He gets credit for using his legs to extend plays and make runs in third down and red zone plays. But he needs to get comfortable threading the needle to a receiver in single coverage. It's a must-do. Until he gets that down, it's going to put a lot of pressure on him to 'save' a drive by sacrificing his body.