Do you Feel the cause of R3G getting hurt is due to Kyles game plan, run run run.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

Its a shame that the board being all ****ed up makes it seem like NC21 started this abortion of a thread.

said same thing....WTF is going on?

[NewCliche21]

said same thing....WTF is going on?

Kyle Shanahan is calling the posts, duh.

[Hubbs]

Jesus ****ing Christ.

That is the most ridiculous thread title of all-time.

Almost....

Jesus ****ing Christ.

That is the most ridiculous thread title of all-time.

There we go.

[Kilmer17]

I blame the Curse of the Squire.

I'm honestly suprised he didnt get hit and have both arms fall off.

[Hitman21ST]

The playcalling really had nothing to do with the injury, but I thought it was atrocious, especially in the first half. There's no flow to Kyle's playcalling, there never has been. And, we are horrendous on third down conversions. Here's the deal: Kyle's hiring has smacked of nepotism from day one, and I haven't seen anything during his tenure here to convince me that he deserves this job on merit. His daddy wants to make sure his son is employed. It's especially frustrating because with an NFL caliber playcaller, we would have won this game.

Right, I'm sure that's exactly what it is. It's not like Kyle made a name for himself elsewhere...

[Rodriggo]

You can't blame Kyle, who I'm no fan of, for RG3's improvised scrambling. He slipped on a wet field trying to cut back inside and got rocked, a poor split second decision. He was trying TOO hard to make a play without his own well being in mind, which would normally be good but when he's EVERYTHING this team has, you have to be more "careful." Live to fight another day.

[NLC1054]

Right, I'm sure that's exactly what it is. It's not like Kyle made a name for himself elsewhere...

Or like he was talked about in league circles as the next great coach...

Robert got hurt because there was no one open in the red zone and he tried to make a play. Initially I thought he had a lane, but he held the ball too long and they collapsed on him. The reason we suck on third down is because Robert's usually pretty damn good about knowing when to hold them and knowing when to fold them. This was a play where Robert's fearlessness bit him in the butt; he should've thrown it away.

He'll learn.

It's unfortunate that there's a lot of fans who won't.

[skins4eva]

Right, I'm sure that's exactly what it is. It's not like Kyle made a name for himself elsewhere...

Yeah--the Texans have really regressed offensively since his departure.

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Or like he was talked about in league circles as the next great coach...

Robert got hurt because there was no one open in the red zone and he tried to make a play. Initially I thought he had a lane, but he held the ball too long and they collapsed on him. The reason we suck on third down is because Robert's usually pretty damn good about knowing when to hold them and knowing when to fold them. This was a play where Robert's fearlessness bit him in the butt; he should've thrown it away.

He'll learn.

It's unfortunate that there's a lot of fans who won't.

Yup--you've got it all figured out. This league is littered with guys who were "the next great thing" and couldn't coach a lick. Norv Turner is still out there. Romeo Crennel, Josh McDaniels...the list goes on and on. I don't put a lot of stock in what people think about Kyle. I know what I see with my own eyes. You can disagree, but don't insult people who see it differently than you. There's no need for that.

[NLC1054]

I know what I see with my own eyes. You can disagree, but don't insult people who see it differently than you. There's no need for that.

It is not an insult.

But there are those who are pre-disposed to not like Kyle Shanahan for whatever reason. Most people come in already feeling that the only reason he's here is because his dad is here, and that negatively influences everything he does and doesn't do. Some blame him for the failings of the quarterback, some want the offense to look like it did in '91. But I certainly don't think those people judge him fairly or even based on what the offense looks like.

[Hitman21ST]

Yeah--the Texans have really regressed offensively since his departure.

They also have one of the best receivers and possibly the best RB in the game.

Oh, and they actually have:

In 2005, the year before he joined the Texans staff, they ranked 30th in total offense.
In 2006, when he was the WR coach, they ranked 28th.
In 2007, as the QB coach, they ranked 14th.
In 2008, his first year as OC, they ranked 3rd.
In 2009, his second year, they ranked 4th.
In 2010, they ranked 3rd.
Last year, they fell to 13th.
This year so far, they are 16th.

Meanwhile, the Redskins:

2009, the year before he came, we ranked 22nd.
2010, his first year here, we ranked 18th.
Last year, we ranked 16th.
This year so far, we are 6th.

So, the Texans offense vastly improves with him as OC, and falls without him.
The Redskins offense has only gotten better though with him.

[skins4eva]

They also have one of the best receivers and possibly the best RB in the game.

Oh, and they actually have:

In 2005, the year before he joined the Texans staff, they ranked 30th in total offense.
In 2006, when he was the WR coach, they ranked 28th.
In 2007, as the QB coach, they ranked 14th.
In 2008, his first year as OC, they ranked 3rd.
In 2009, his second year, they ranked 4th.
In 2010, they ranked 3rd.
Last year, they fell to 13th.
This year so far, they are 16th.

Meanwhile, the Redskins:

2009, the year before he came, we ranked 22nd.
2010, his first year here, we ranked 18th.
Last year, we ranked 16th.
This year so far, we are 6th.

So, the Texans offense vastly improves with him as OC, and falls without him.
The Redskins offense has only gotten better though with him.

You're serious? Yeah--they must really miss him given their undefeated season so far. I heard they are begging to get Kyle back...And another thing, the rankings are based solely on total yards--which is a pretty poor measurement of actual offensive performance, wouldn't you say?

[Hitman21ST]

You're serious? Yeah--they must really miss him given their undefeated season so far. I heard they are begging to get Kyle back...And another thing, the rankings are based solely on total yards--which is a pretty poor measurement of actual offensive performance, wouldn't you say?

Funny how you change from "they haven't regressed" to "they're undefeated" (which has more to do with their defense than their offense) and "I heard they're begging to get him back". Sucks that you have to change your stance when presented with hard facts, huh?

[skins4eva]

Funny how you change from "they haven't regressed" to "they're undefeated" (which has more to do with their defense than their offense) and "I heard they're begging to get him back". Sucks that you have to change your stance when presented with hard facts, huh?

Didn't change my stance at all, dude. Can't even tell what you're trying to prove. The Texans offense is getting it done without K. Shanahan--he's not integral to their success--they've gotten better without him. That's my point.

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Funny how you change from "they haven't regressed" to "they're undefeated" (which has more to do with their defense than their offense) and "I heard they're begging to get him back". Sucks that you have to change your stance when presented with hard facts, huh?

Didn't change my stance at all, dude. Can't even tell what you're trying to prove. The Texans offense is getting it done without K. Shanahan--he's not integral to their success--they've gotten better without him. That's my point.

[Warhead36]

Texans are a good football team and have a ton of talent. Just because they've been productive without Kyle doesn't mean Kyle isn't a good coach. Also, Kyle never got to work with Arian Foster.

[NLC1054]

Didn't change my stance at all, dude. Can't even tell what you're trying to prove. The Texans offense is getting it done without K. Shanahan--he's not integral to their success--they've gotten better without him. That's my point.

I think his point was statistically, they sort of maintained where they were that first year Kyle came here, then dropped to 13th (though to be fair, Schaub got hurt last year.) Now they're sort of borderline-ish.

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Texans are a good football team and have a ton of talent. Just because they've been productive without Kyle doesn't mean Kyle isn't a good coach. Also, Kyle never got to work with Arian Foster.

Yeah he did. Kyle called Foster's first 100+-yard rushing game, Foster had a 97 yard game the week before that, and scored 3 touchdowns over the last four weeks when he was active and playing.