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    Quote Originally Posted by s0crates View Post
    Never heard of this. It did look like he took it in the chin though. Anybody else know if this is a real possibility?
    Yeah... I'm going to go out on a limb here and label that one as either outdated bull**** or a misunderstanding of something closer to the truth. Generally when you lose consciousness because of a blow to the head it's because your brain has impacted against your skull due to the sudden acceleration. If nerves are involved in the equation at all, they're probably not located under the jaw but at the back of the head. The only thing that I can think of that would probably cause you to pass out without involving some brain trauma in that situation would be if you were somehow able to disrupt blood flow... but that usually requires a choke out or something a little more prolonged and would have to be targeted to the neck. I'm no doctor, though, I just play one on ES.

    That said, it's not necessarily a concussion if you lose consciousness... but Griffin was clearly demonstrating concussion symptoms when he re-gained consciousness, so I think it's pretty clear what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbs Hog Heaven View Post
    I'm no neurologist, but when someone doesn't know what quarter it is, not long after come out after half-time; I'd say it was far more serious than a temporary blackout from a good lick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enter Apotheosis View Post
    Yeah... I'm going to go out on a limb here and label that one as either outdated bull**** or a misunderstanding of something closer to the truth. Generally when you lose consciousness because of a blow to the head it's because your brain has impacted against your skull due to the sudden acceleration. If nerves are involved in the equation at all, they're probably not located under the jaw but at the back of the head. The only thing that I can think of that would probably cause you to pass out without involving some brain trauma in that situation would be if you were somehow able to disrupt blood flow... but that usually requires a choke out or something a little more prolonged and would have to be targeted to the neck. I'm no doctor, though, I just play one on ES.

    That said, it's not necessarily a concussion if you lose consciousness... but Griffin was clearly demonstrating concussion symptoms when he re-gained consciousness, so I think it's pretty clear what happened.
    Ah okay. This is more in line with what I was thinking.
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    I want to see what Cousins can do with a full week of practice. And while I'd like to win, it's better and more important to have RG3 at 100% for the Giants game in week 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s0crates View Post
    Never heard of this. It did look like he took it in the chin though. Anybody else know if this is a real possibility?
    Hypoglossal nerve,vagus nerve,and the glossopharyngeal nerve. Then u have your caroted (sp) artery.

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    It's a good sign that he hasn't had any headaches or nausea and let's hope it stays that way. The scary thing about brain injuries is that they could take weeks, months, or years to manifest. So, even if he makes it through this week with no problems, it doesn't necessarily mean he's out of the woods. But you can't hold a guy out indefinitely for what might happen.

    That was a textbook concussion shot that he took. The way his head snapped violently to the side is exactly how most concussions in the NFL happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss_Hogg View Post
    Even if he is "cleared" I want him to sit.

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    Just a precaution.

    Why?

    This injury needs to be taken as seriously as all other injuries, but if RG3 is given 100% medical clearance to play, the Redskins don't need to wrap him in lamb's wool just for the sake of doing it.

    If he is cleared, he'll play, and he should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsGuy View Post
    Why?

    This injury needs to be taken as seriously as all other injuries, but if RG3 is given 100% medical clearance to play, the Redskins don't need to wrap him in lamb's wool just for the sake of doing it.

    If he is cleared, he'll play, and he should.
    Agreed. The doctors are not going to let him on the field unless he passes all the tests, is given full clearance and can perform without limitations. I think it is a misconception people have that he is more likely to suffer a concussion since it just happened but i posted an article earlier concerning Aaron Rodgers and how that is false

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxSpearheadxX View Post
    LOL at the 22 year "Old Curmudgeon" lamenting on how soft we've gotten as a society.
    Haha, I'd barely use "curmudgeon", I personally think it's a bit funny, but at the same time hope my brain isn't liquified because of it or anything like society suggests .

    I personally, think it has a lot to do with modern day society's health paranoia. It could be compared to obsession with mold, asbestos, and lead paint. They're hazardous, but they aren't anthrax, though sometimes you would think they were. Concussions, common sense, are not good. A human's brain hitting the side of his skull so hard that he drools and asks when he get's to pet the tiger can't be a good thing, but I have my doubts on how long term it really is, and how much punishment and repeated incidents have to occur to do any serious damage. But I'm also not a doctor.
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    Default Re: Your opionion: Will Griffin play this Sunday?

    who are you? i live in danville and have Kids who race MX

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    I would be surprised if he plays. He is tge franchise and concussions are nothing to mess with. It is not like we are going to the playoffs this year. His health is more important than this game. Showcase cousins, have him have a great day then trade him in the off seaon for some picks.


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    I hope all things work out so he can play...don't want him coming back too soon...hopefully the docs will err on the side of caution and if he's well enough they will give him the green light...if there's any question in the docs minds,,he should sit...I'd rather have him the rest of the season than to have him in 1 game and lost for the season....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RG3toMonk View Post
    Going to my only 'Skins game of the year this Sunday with the wife. Bought these tickets in hopes to see you know who under center. As my luck would have it, he gets a concussion and we not only lose the Falcons game because of it; but I might not get to seem him play.

    What your thought? Will he play Sunday?

    I'm thinking positive. HTR
    I hope he plays, I am have got quite a journey to make this game.

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    I agree we have to be cautious with the whole concussion thing but i am also concerned about him coming back too late and comming back scarred . I doubt that would happen he has been through these things before and I am sure he knows how to come back ..

    One thing I did find interesting is how missunderstood concussions are and how poorly we are able to determine if anyone is actually recovered from a concusion at all .

    I did come accross an interesting article on the net here “Alteration of brain functional network at rest and in response to YMCA physical stress test in concussed athletes: RsFMRI study.” S.M. Slobounov, M. Gay, K. Zhang, B. Johnson, D. Pennell, W. Sebastianelli, S. Horovitz, M. Hallett. NeuroImage, April 15, 2011, Vol. 55(4), pp. 1716-27.

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    Default Re: Your opionion: Will Griffin play this Sunday?

    have any of todays top qb ever had a concussion? (mannings, rodgers, brady, brees)
    **** it, I'm going deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphs56 View Post
    Agreed. The doctors are not going to let him on the field unless he passes all the tests, is given full clearance and can perform without limitations. I think it is a misconception people have that he is more likely to suffer a concussion since it just happened but i posted an article earlier concerning Aaron Rodgers and how that is false
    Can you post this article again? Because you are more likely to get a second concussion if you are still under the affects of a first concussion.

    Second Impact Syndrome is exactly this, and it can lead to permanent brain damage. No way should RG3 play this week. A week isn't enough time.
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