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    Default Re: Atlanta BlackStar: Arkansas State Rep: Slavery Was a ‘Blessing in Disguise’

    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    Same thing with the Ron Paul / Conspiracy Nutjob crowd.
    From what I've seen it is the freedom of thought and individualism that draws them....kinda like the island of misfits,flaws are tolerated more among the fringe
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    Default Re: Atlanta BlackStar: Arkansas State Rep: Slavery Was a ‘Blessing in Disguise’

    This is all BS. Racism is dead and something something race card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twa View Post
    From what I've seen it is the freedom of thought and individualism that draws them....kinda like the island of misfits,flaws are tolerated more among the fringe
    Makes one wonder if they think they are flawed.

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    Makes one wonder if they think they are flawed.
    Introspection in that manner was never celebrated much, that which united outweighed flaws
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    Default Re: Atlanta BlackStar: Arkansas State Rep: Slavery Was a ‘Blessing in Disguise’

    The irony is thick in this thread. The response to a bigoted statement has largely been to generalize and demonize entire groups of people (christians, republicans, southerners, etc.) You cant make this **** up...
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    The irony is thick in this thread. The response to a bigoted statement has largely been to generalize and demonize entire groups of people (christians, republicans, southerners, etc.) You cant make this **** up...
    Do the constituents in Arkansas who elected and empowered these men not deserve some scorn from their peers? I think some fault has to go on the people who vote for people like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koala View Post
    The irony is thick in this thread. The response to a bigoted statement has largely been to generalize and demonize entire groups of people (christians, republicans, southerners, etc.) You cant make this **** up...
    These voters elected these individuals as their representatives in government. What, if anything, are we allowed to make of that?
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    Default Re: Atlanta BlackStar: Arkansas State Rep: Slavery Was a ‘Blessing in Disguise’

    Quote Originally Posted by Destino View Post
    This is all BS. Racism is dead and something something race card.
    Love it.

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    Default Re: Atlanta BlackStar: Arkansas State Rep: Slavery Was a ‘Blessing in Disguise’

    Echoing previous comments.

    There comes a point when a person does represent a group.

    I think that we can all agree that when said group elects that person to represent them, is one of the time.

    To pick an analogy I use a lot, when the Palestinians elect Hamas to be the majority party in their government then yes, Hamas does represent the Palestinians.

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    Having said that, though, I will also observe that the idiot who is the subject of the thread is a former state rep.

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    Default Re: Atlanta BlackStar: Arkansas State Rep: Slavery Was a ‘Blessing in Disguise’

    Quote Originally Posted by Predicto View Post
    These voters elected these individuals as their representatives in government. What, if anything, are we allowed to make of that?
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    Now stop being so irresponsible and quit sucking as a citizen and voter. Thanks.
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    Default Re: Atlanta BlackStar: Arkansas State Rep: Slavery Was a ‘Blessing in Disguise’

    Quote Originally Posted by Predicto View Post
    These voters elected these individuals as their representatives in government. What, if anything, are we allowed to make of that?
    That some people dont show their true colors until after they are elected.

    Correct me if Im wrong, but didnt he make these comments after he was elected? In whcih case, judging his constituents makes 0 sense, unless youve bestowed up Arkansas voters the power of mind-reading...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry View Post
    Echoing previous comments.

    There comes a point when a person does represent a group.

    I think that we can all agree that when said group elects that person to represent them, is one of the time.

    To pick an analogy I use a lot, when the Palestinians elect Hamas to be the majority party in their government then yes, Hamas does represent the Palestinians..
    I seems this way of looking at it can too easily go awry. If I want to see Palestinians in a particular light, I may focus on them electing Hamas even though Hamas only got 44.45% of the vote (just looked it up).

    So while it is accurate to say that democratically elected governments represent their people, we should be careful not to assume that all of the people agree with all positions of their elected representatives.
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    Default Re: Atlanta BlackStar: Arkansas State Rep: Slavery Was a ‘Blessing in Disguise’

    Mauch would have been an ignorant, racist PoS even in the 1870s.

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    Default Re: Atlanta BlackStar: Arkansas State Rep: Slavery Was a ‘Blessing in Disguise’

    Quote Originally Posted by alexey View Post
    So while it is accurate to say that democratically elected governments represent their people, we should be careful not to assume that all of the people agree with all positions of their elected representatives.
    I haven't seen anybody claiming that 100% of the people in this doofus' district agreed with 100% of every thing he has ever said.

    I said that he represents them. Meaning "can sometimes be used a a model for"

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    I'll also draw another analogy/point, too. I'll create an imaginary person, to illustrate.

    Imagine a hypothetical politician. Let's say that this politician is well known for publicly advocating, say, the position that black people aren't real people, or real Americans, or some such, and that the government should ship all of them to Africa.

    Pretend that this hypothetical politician gets elected.

    Now, consider a hypothetical voter in his district. Let's say this voter voted for this politician. That still doesn't mean that that individual voter agrees with the politician's "ship em back to Africa" position. The voter may have voted for him because of his position on tax cuts, or some other issue.

    Even then, what this vote has shown is that said voter(s) don't think that the politicians "ship em back" policy disqualifies him.

    When said politician gets elected, it doesn't even prove that a majority of the voters support him, on that one issue.

    But it proves that a majority of the voters are willing to vote for somebody with that position.

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    Default Re: Atlanta BlackStar: Arkansas State Rep: Slavery Was a ‘Blessing in Disguise’

    Quote Originally Posted by alexey View Post
    I seems this way of looking at it can too easily go awry. If I want to see Palestinians in a particular light, I may focus on them electing Hamas even though Hamas only got 44.45% of the vote (just looked it up).

    So while it is accurate to say that democratically elected governments represent their people, we should be careful not to assume that all of the people agree with all positions of their elected representatives.
    Thank you. Now, if they re-elect him in a landslide, and he gets a lot of positive feedback from his constituents for those comments, then you can start judging. Till then, I remind you that this logic is the same logic that Osama Bin Laden used to justify his attacks on american citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuposse87 View Post
    Do the constituents in Arkansas who elected and empowered these men not deserve some scorn from their peers? I think some fault has to go on the people who vote for people like this.
    Were the voters aware he held these viewpoints when the elected him?
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