Rant from a muslim about Taliban shooting14-year old girl

[Predicto]

I generally find the "religion is the root of all evil" argument to be tiresome, simplistic, and pointless (usually ending up in some kind of list of good/bad the participants are expected to somehow weigh, like stoning women vs. charity hospitals), but I did think you should know that you probably couldn't have picked a worse example to try to prove your point. Take a look at this map:

http://blue.utb.edu/paullgj/geog3320...es/cresmap.gif

Do you suppose there might be something there to fight over besides religion?

Reminds me of this:

[Corcaigh]

Do you suppose there might be something there to fight over besides religion?

Alex: What are goats?

[Jumbo]

I generally find the "religion is the root of all evil" argument to be tiresome, simplistic, and pointless <edit>

I know you're not prone to do such, so allow me to add "stunningly stupid and requires pissing all over your critical thinking engine---and that fluid is not helpful to its operation."


I'd apologize for attaching my crudity to your more dignified presentation, but then I remember it's flawed to ask forgiveness if one is not truly repentant.

[Corcaigh]

I know you're not prone to do such, so allow me to add "stunningly stupid and requires pissing all over your critical thinking engine---and that fluid is not helpful to its operation."

If we're contributing crudity, can I suggest that while religion is not the root of all evil, it is an abundant source of 'natural fertilizer' that encourages very poisonous plants to flourish.

[GoSkins561]

BULL****

It makes me want to throw up when I hear people say we should negotiate with them or let them be. Anyone who would give an inch to these ******** is as guilty of evil as the bastard who pulled the trigger on that little girl. No. You don't get a pass because it's on the other side of the world.

If the only thing that evil needs to flourish is for good men to do nothing, what does it say about us if we negotiate deals to facilitate it? What does it say about us as a nation if we walk away because stoping the evil was "too hard" or it costs "too much"? What kind of future are we providing our children and the entire world by enabling an evil cult to spread?

Dude, I think we need to pack our stuff up and roll out, there isn't anything we can do to change the minds of the lunatics that run these countries/communities, I will say this doesn't make me "as guilty as the evil bastard that pulled the trigger" that's just ignorant.

[Predicto]

That is all.

Oh, now you have sunk so low as to cheer the murder of a little girl, just because she's a Muslim, to further your racist conservative agenda. Have you no shame?




























internet logic

[Jumbo]

BTW, P, thank you for the video. I recognized the late Mr. Williams voice instantly and that movie theme was a favortie as a kid. I think my aunt had the Ferrante & Teicher album of it. I used to baffle both friends my age and adults in my life when as a teenager I would go right from Johnny Horton to Elvis to The Animals to Andy Williams to Harry James to Etta James to Mozart to Man of La Mancha.

I hadn't heard that for a long time and last time I went hunting real performances of it, I came up empty on the AW version.

And Corc---if you want me to cosign that most everything George said about religion resonates with me at some level of another, or that religion frequently features a mountainous helping of amazingly convoluted cognition, and enabling "fertilizer' for bad (and even murderous) behaviors, and just sheer bull**** in the more general sense, you got it.

But to paraphrase the late Mr. Harvey, "there's also the rest of the story." And it includes all the positives of religion and how all the bad noted is also prominent in human institutions other than religion, because it's all human. The flaws are built right into the foundation of the structures from the get-go, even when specifically claimed "tis not so." I hope that day comes where either religion or man (or both) changes enough to where I would feel like stating things much differently. But that doesn't mean we need to lay down and cease striving for improvement, even if the institution is such that it powerfully resists or even forbids change. I subscribe to the idea that "in the here and now" at minimum, any institution can only be what people allow it to be.

[mad4comp]

Just a side note:

To all the people that say "Islam doesn't allow this" or "this is against the teachings of Islam," please spare us the B.S.

You can pull out quotes which support your argument and I can pull out quotes which contradict those. The problem is two fold. A.) Those people (Taliban, LeT, Muslim Brotherhood etc..) are still stuck in the 7th century, and B.) Poverty/Education (Lack there of).

Until the infrastructures are in place to promote a more Modern society in those countries (I'm looking at you Saudia Arabia/Pakistan) this will continue to happen. No curbing it whatsoever.

In the end, people need to start realizing that no matter who you are, where you're from, we all deserve basic human rights. Unfortunately a lot of people still put too much faith into God and this invisible fellow sitting in the skies watching our every move. Earth to you religious nut jobs...that fellow doesn't exist and no amount of praying will get you anything.

/rant off

[Corcaigh]

And speaking of not-so-poisonous religious dudes, the Dalai Lama was rocking a William & Mary visor for his 'chat' at William & Mary Hall this afternoon.

[visionary]

And speaking of not-so-poisonous religious dudes, the Dalai Lama was rocking a William & Mary visor for his 'chat' at William & Mary Hall this afternoon.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...z2fR06i0x8cy2w

Tempted to bring up the various young people who burned themselves to death in Tibet over the past few years or so.

Ah hell....

http://www.voanews.com/content/lates...4/1521684.html

Latest Self-Immolation in Tibet Brings Total to 54

[Corcaigh]

You're sticking the Dalai Lama with the 'wave' of self-immolation?

[Koolblue13]

I'm going to eat an entire sleeve of saltines in one sitting with no water, just to prove it's possible. This thread has a lot.

[Predicto]

BTW, P, thank you for the video. I recognized the late Mr. Williams voice instantly and that movie theme was a favortie as a kid.

Andy Williams always looked like such a dork in his TV specials, but if you shut your eyes and just listen to his voice, it really was remarkable. One of the best ever.

[visionary]

You're sticking the Dalai Lama with the 'wave' of self-immolation?

For setting them on fire, no.
For not being more outspoken against it, yes.
Also they obviously are getting the idea somewhere.

[Koolblue13]

For setting them on fire, no.
For not being more outspoken against it, yes.
Also they obviously are getting the idea somewhere.

It would be a different story if people gave a ****, or even noticed.

Ghandi wouldn't make the A section these days.