Brandon Banks: Clash Time--Should He Stay or Should He Go? (MET)

[DogofWar1]

Banks, like Doughty, has a four leaf clover where the sun don't shine. The guy fumbles a lot, he's just consistently lucky we get them back. He usually runs from sideline to sideline, and periodically breaks a nice runback, but he hasn't been the home run threat we want him to be.

Banks probably stays this year because he's getting some work out of the backfield, but after this year all bets are off. And that's only if his fumbles keep getting picked back up by us. If we start losing them, he'll be gone very quickly.

---------- Post added October-15th-2012 at 04:21 PM ----------

We saw the issues in the preseason. I have no doubt that he could get a step on a lot of DBs. The issue is that with his size, he would need to get about 4 steps on a DB for a QB to be able to drop the ball in there. The smaller you are, the more space you need to make a play on the ball.

And Banks has more trouble getting off the line of scrimmage than most. He's too small to survive a solid bump, get a good shove on him and he won't be able to get that 4 step lead.

[TheGreek1973]

Right now I would love to see Banks cut and Cooley back there on the spread. yea he is slow, but he can block if need be, he can catch if needed and he may break a tackle of too. Banks is simply useless on this team and mark my words he is going to fumble one and cost us a game.

[Mahons21]

I was probably Banks' biggest fan this past offseason. My argument had always been he'll make the team as a return man, not as a WR as Shanny said he must.

That argument is no longer valid, becaus he's been awful as a return man.

Rather a new argument has formed for keeping him, and that is as an actual assett to the offense. Until the triple option offense is either a.) figured out, or b.) another player shows they can replicate what Banks does for the triple option, he'll remain a Redskin. But I'd be open to trying our Niles on either KR/PR duties, that dude can accelerate period.

---------- Post added October-15th-2012 at 07:31 PM ----------

And Banks has more trouble getting off the line of scrimmage than most. He's too small to survive a solid bump, get a good shove on him and he won't be able to get that 4 step lead.

He was doing a damn good job of it during pre-season/training camp (really the only time we've had a chance to evaluate him at it). He doesn't have the strength but he does have the foot speed to throw people off at the LOS, and oh yeah, if your miss your jam you're looking back at him running it in for 6.

[rick1796]

I just don't understand how some people still think banks is a game changer. Percy Harbin is a game changer. Banks isn't even a good fit for the option game the way we are running it. i cringe every time he touches the ball.

[Tin Man]

To OP: Banks is an asset; now if he would please stop letting the ball go over his head - at least make the fair catch.

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Dude c'mon this is a bad thread. Not all thoughts should be threads or even said aloud. I'd say this falls into that category.

Used to be a big banks fan, still believe he can and will make a serious impact this season

This man/woman has just as much right as anyone else to start a thread; if you don't like the thread, don't read it. It took you more time to type out a response than hit that "X" in the top right corner. So quit whining...

...and I agree with you last sentence all day.

[Skins3000]

After watching Briscoe drop a pass, Niles Paul dropping multiple passes I think Banks has contributed way more than these two players. I can name one game being the Bengals game when Banks came up big. Cannot say the same for these two.

[SkinsBoss]

I like banks and believe there is a lot of the playbook we have yet to open up for him.......wouldn't mind seeing briscoe cut.....and miles Paul just needs more playing time and he should become better and bigger part of the offense

[hunterx]

After watching Briscoe drop a pass, Niles Paul dropping multiple passes I think Banks has contributed way more than these two players. I can name one game being the Bengals game when Banks came up big. Cannot say the same for these two.

Yah, I am starting to wonder if WR is not as much a strength for us as I thought when we signed Garcon and Morgan. Neither has lived up to their contract, yet. Morgan doesn't seem to be able to elevate his game and be a consistent target for Griff.

I also don't buy the notion that Griffin spreads the ball around so much it's hard for players to get 60+ catches. I think he is forced to spread the ball around because his current #1 and #2 targets aren't getting separation quick enough to warrant a throw to them.

I've never really been a fan of Banks...Once or twice a year I will get on the bandwagon because he breaks a 50 yard return. Then he is a dud for 4 weeks and I just wonder what other player we could have active. Someone mentioned in another thread why not a kickoff specialist if touchbacks were so important to the staff. I am inclined to agree.

[Momma There Goes That Man]

I am a big Robinson fan and I don't see anything Banks brings to the team that Robinson can't. Put Robinson back there in the "Banks" package and it is just as effective and actually more so because of the threat of motioning Robinson out in the slot or just running a wheel route or something where he would be far more effective than Banks at.

He had a good run but it is time for Banks to go. He brings nothing in returns, makes bad decisions on punts and doesn't do anything of offense basically. He also fumbles constantly.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

Right now I would love to see Banks cut and Cooley back there on the spread. yea he is slow, but he can block if need be, he can catch if needed and he may break a tackle of too. Banks is simply useless on this team and mark my words he is going to fumble one and cost us a game.

dude....Cooley IS NOT coming back. Get over it. The guy is done. Not trying to be a douche, but it's crazy how ppl bring up Cooley in every thread

[pjfootballer]

that's possible.

after they pull him from the PUP, he can practice for 2 weeks i think for them to make a decision on whether they IR him or put him on the roster.

I would think though because of his contract, he will get the benefit of the doubt if he practices well

He'll be so rusty at this point. Unless he's 100% healthy and 100% up to speed, I'd just go with Polumbus for now.

[justice98]

After watching Briscoe drop a pass, Niles Paul dropping multiple passes I think Banks has contributed way more than these two players. I can name one game being the Bengals game when Banks came up big. Cannot say the same for these two.

I'm still high on Briscoe, I'm not going to overreact to one pass. And he hasn't been on the field enough to really make a judgement. When Banks is on the field, the play is usually designed for him to play a big part, so yeah, he's going to have a bigger impact, just for that alone. When he comes on the field, he's probably getting the ball. I doubt any of Briscoe's plays have him anything higher than the 3rd option, at best, but that's only because we have some depth at WR. Briscoe'll be fine.

---------- Post added October-16th-2012 at 09:28 AM ----------

Yah, I am starting to wonder if WR is not as much a strength for us as I thought when we signed Garcon and Morgan. Neither has lived up to their contract, yet. Morgan doesn't seem to be able to elevate his game and be a consistent target for Griff.

I also don't buy the notion that Griffin spreads the ball around so much it's hard for players to get 60+ catches. I think he is forced to spread the ball around because his current #1 and #2 targets aren't getting separation quick enough to warrant a throw to them.

I've never really been a fan of Banks...Once or twice a year I will get on the bandwagon because he breaks a 50 yard return. Then he is a dud for 4 weeks and I just wonder what other player we could have active. Someone mentioned in another thread why not a kickoff specialist if touchbacks were so important to the staff. I am inclined to agree.

Morgan has no business being a #1 or #2 WR, which is the role he's having to play. And I'm not sure he's better than Moss in the slot as the 3rd WR. We can probably get by, but Garcon has to get back and be healthy.

[JeffSchmeff]

It seems like the coaches are waiting for one big return to change/win a game to justify his existence while putting up with his mediocrity.

[Pride]

Banks will be gone after this season if not sooner.. I defended him to my friends all offseason and he proved me wrong.

[daveakl]

I'll offer this up.

Banks on the field creates match up problems for the defense. They have film of him throwing the ball, they have film of him running the option, they have film of him on an end around, they have film of him taking a pitch around the edge. It is a lot to look for.

Now, having him in the backfield with RGIII and Morris creates even more problems. Morris up the middle? RGIII around the tackle? Banks around the sideline? Pitch back to RGIII for a throw down field? Banks throwing down field? Play action to both then rolling back the other way by RGIII? That's a crap load to think about. Even more, imagine being on D and the O sub package comes in with him. You have to digest what you are seeing as well as prepare for what can occur in less then 30 seconds.

I get the argument for Paul or Robinson, but there speed seems to be more straight line and not the shifty start stop and pure acceleration that Banks shows and is important for those types of plays.

Let's take it a step farther. Imagine Garcon healthy at one wide out, Hankerson at the other. RGIII behind center, Morris and Davis flanking him on either side and Banks directly behind RGIII. The speed / weapons out of that set is sick! And the potential to run that no huddle. Think the D may get a bit gassed? lol