Why we can't compete until 2014 at the earliest. Maybe 2015. All through little fault of our own.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

...... You make fun of me for my claim last year that we didn't have to lose out to get RG3, yet isn't that exactly what happened? Isn't that why you have that awesome sig now?

Uhmm, no and no.

I have the signature I've not bothered changing due to one loss. You wanted us to win every game, which if we had, we doubtless wouldn't be sitting pretty at the most important position on the team with the once in a generation guy we do have. In large part due to those loses. So your claim wasn't a claim in any shape or form. Just because we ended up with him by virtue of two more wins than the thread that sent you apoplectic last year doesn't vindicate what you argued against.

And I aren't giving up on anything. Just being realistic in what we have, IMHO, and what we have to work with going forward.

But hey, that won't be known one way or the other until the end of this season and next. So it's all conjecture whichever way you come at this from.

Competing for honors or not.

Hail.

[GSF]

blah blah blah as usual...goodnight to all.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

blah blah blah as usual...goodnight to all.

Self analysis?

Hail.

[Gart Monk]

I think some of you are underestimating the drafting ability of the Shanahan administration.

+1

The "foundation" of this roster feels so much better. I believed they learned from this loss. Not so much back then.

[Stricknine]

I thought this post was pretty ridiculous when I first saw it, so I skipped to the end. Forgive me for not reading every defense of and counter to this idea, but isnt this completely devaluing coaching? With mostly the same personnel save for injuries to AC and Orakpo, and lesser S play...the D was much better with Spanos still around to show how the 3-4 should actually work. With the O working as it is now, and the 3-4 ran correctly again(Haz has got to go!) we can compete immediately. You can scheme around some bad play. No team has 1st rounders at every position. If we cant compete til the full amount of our $ is available or we have 1st rounders to use again, everyone should be fired including Bruce and the entire scouting staff. Sign a new capable DC and continue to draft well and we are ready to go. Now.

[BleedBNG]

With mostly the same personnel save for injuries to AC and Orakpo, and lesser S play...the D was much better with Spanos still around to show how the 3-4 should actually work. With the O working as it is now, and the 3-4 ran correctly again (Haz has got to go!) we can compete immediately. Sign a new capable DC and continue to draft well and we are ready to go. Now.

I totally agree. Send Redskin One to California NOW. I keep thinking our D secondary will snap out of their crapola with each week for at LEAST one game, but they never do. It just goes on and on.

[MusicCitySkin]

I'm sorry, but it doesn't speak very highly of this teams ability to acquire talent when the sole success of the team is resting on the shoulders of two rookies right now.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

I thought this post was pretty ridiculous when I first saw it, so I skipped to the end. Forgive me for not reading every defense of and counter to this idea, but isnt this completely devaluing coaching? With mostly the same personnel save for injuries to AC and Orakpo, and lesser S play...the D was much better with Spanos still around to show how the 3-4 should actually work. With the O working as it is now, and the 3-4 ran correctly again(Haz has got to go!) we can compete immediately. You can scheme around some bad play. No team has 1st rounders at every position. If we cant compete til the full amount of our $ is available or we have 1st rounders to use again, everyone should be fired including Bruce and the entire scouting staff. Sign a new capable DC and continue to draft well and we are ready to go. Now.

I completely agree on Haslett. He's a career average, one dimensional, totally uninventive coordinator. And I personally think Morris is the next DC iin-waiting. 9 games until he gets the gig.

But even if Haslett was canned today and Raheem installed, he'd have to scheme like nobody's ever schemed before to cover the deficiencies of the secondary. We have, IMHO, at best one true starting caliber talent among the corners, if complimented by another quality corner, and nothing else. That's three starters down right there in a pass happy league getting better all the time across the board. It's hard to mask a lack of talent to such a degree no matter how you prepare and try mask/ compensate for it.

Would a new coordinator help? No question. As would any upgrade in personnel. I just don't see how you can upgrade significantly in another handicapped off-season for the back end of the unit to not consistently hold up what's happening on offense for another year, maybe two dependent on how we view the RT situation and use FA when we get back to a level playing field in 2014.

Sure, we'll compete in games. We are now. Nobody's doubting that. But to consistently come out on the plus side of that, without expecting the O to perform heroics each week; is a heck of an ask by just 'patching up' an already woeful area of the team.

Anyone can feel free to bump this and point the finger solely at me, but I don't see the post-season on the horizon until at lest the 2014 season given what we have to do. And the handicap placed on that.

Hail.

[Burgold]

GHH,

This is the slippery slope of last year's fan strategy. It makes it so much easier to become defeatist when you begin cheering and rooting for losses. The cup is actually more than half full. We have a solid d line which is a big thing, a qb, a good running back, a very good left tackle, and a better line than I thought. Our receivers don't drop many and are at least solid. Our linebackers ain't bad. Still feel good about Orakpo, Ryan, and Kerrigan going into next year and who can't love Lorenzo.

So, that leaves us one major hole to fill. With better scheme and a better passrush... Orakpo's wheels were uninjured so it shouldn't take him as long to return to game field speed... we'll be doing okay. We can even ugrade safety and cb without getting superstar play. Average safties will make a huge difference.

Haslett has the propensity to call exactly the wrong play at the wrong moment. He consistently dials up a play which gives the big one away. Don't imagine there can't be a huge gain just by getting a better tactician. Yesterday's loss was one in which apparently no coach told Hall to stop giving up that outside leverage or get the linebacker to fill. Heck, if Aikman could see that Hall was giving up gimme passes pre-snap so do most opposing qbs and so should Haslett and Morris 7 games in!

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

With the greatest of respect Burgold, personally speaking, this has jack **** to do with last year. And it's a little insulting to have it suggested as such from someone I have the greatest of time for.

From others, not least one's already rearing their head in this thread, I'd expect that flippant response. Not so much from a poster of the caliber such as yourself.

A win yesterday wouldn't of changed my view on the overall situation going forward and the task at hand, made that much harder through no fault of our own; as I presently see it.

Hail.

[Burgold]

Wasn't trying to be flip.

Last week, after the victory I wrote about how we the fans need to learn to win again. I think there is a decay in the overall spirit. We're not as far off as you believe. Think about all the good pieces we have. Think of all that is right on this team.

Running back, QB, Effective O-line and D-line, above average line backing, good enough receivers, poor db play. Terrible defensive playcalling.

Get the mental part of the game right (aka get a better defensive coordinator) and get some blue collar vs. blue chipper defensive back help and I think we'll be good to go. As I said in the other thread, we don't need Ronnie Lott or Ed Reed. We need a Brad Edwards or Ryan Clark. Those can be found even with the draft and cap restrictions we have to deal with.

[emor09]

I know the $36 million had to be divided up into two years with at least $18 mil this year. Did we choose to go $18/$18 or did we stay more than $18 mil under this year's cap?

[s0crates]

I know the $36 million had to be divided up into two years with at least $18 mil this year. Did we choose to go $18/$18 or did we stay more than $18 mil under this year's cap?

Originally we were told we could divide it up any way we saw fit, but later we were told we had to do 18 and 18.

[Isifhan]

I know the $36 million had to be divided up into two years with at least $18 mil this year. Did we choose to go $18/$18 or did we stay more than $18 mil under this year's cap?

From what I recall the NFL first said we could take it all at once. They then of course changed their minds and said we had to split it.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

$18 M. off both years.

Hail.