Realistically, how is Mike doing on building the roster?

[jfr3ek]

Rak is injury prone and could see the chopping block soon.

[Burgold]

Rak is injury prone and could see the chopping block soon.

I don't disagree with this. Until this year he missed how many games? Plus, you saw the drop in production in pressures and sacks with him out. Kerrigan was clearly impacted.

Hopefully, with a full year of rest and rehab he's ready to go.

[GothSkinsFan]

One good reason not to trade picks to move up (and I'm not criticizing the RGIII trade) is that these days, injuries are so frequent, you have to have good depth; the corollary to that being that it's better to have good starters and good depth than great starters and mediocre depth.

[Skinsfan4life83]

We just won the NFC East for the first time since 99' and some of you people still aren't happy. Jesus Christ.

I got a question. Name me one franchise, CURRENT, that you consider a dynasty. A team whose depth is so great that they could overcome the loss of ANY player and still be in Superbowl contention.

I'm gonna go with the current playoff field.

Patriots- I will give you one reason this team makes the playoffs year in and year out. Tom Brady. Lose him and they are done. Gronk is elite no doubt. But outside of him and Welker their offense is full of average players. Tom Brady makes their team what it is. Defensively, Mayo, Wlifork and Talib are their best players. Their depth is solid. Made up of free agents and draft picks.

Sanfrancisco- The closest thing to a dynasty in the NFL today. People forget it took years of drafting in the high first round, ie. Sucking hard for many years, to aquire the group of talent they have. Their defense is elite no doubt. Offensively Kaepernick puts them over the top.

I'm gonna stop there.

My question is this. Why do you people think that we must have elite talent at every position to be a successful franchise. There are very few teams that have elite talent at every position.

Personally I think Shanahan has done a hell of a job finding talent in the draft and free agency, which MUST, work in tandem for a franchise to be successful.

RGIII and Kirk Cousins are the main pieces to the puzzle here. As they go so will this team and our continued success.

Morris, Helu, Royster- Solid group here. IF Helu can get healthy he will provide an excellent change of pace to Morris. This group is as good as any in the league.

Darrel Young- Excellent fullback. Blocking and receiving.

Garcon, Morgan, Hankerson, Robinson- These four are make up a very capable group. Garcon proved his value this year. Maybe add a big body to the mix. Either through free agency or the draft.

Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen, Niles Paul- Once again another solid group. Very capable.

Trent Williams, Chris Chester, Kory Lichtensteiger, Montgomery, and Polumbus- Overachieving but solid group. Could use some more depth and a legitimate RT but they fit our scheme well.

Bowen, Carriker, Cofield, Jenkins, Golston make up a solid front. Maybe draft a true nose tackle but this group is far from terrible.

Kerrigan, Orakpo, Fletcher, Riley- This,group has potential to be elite. With Orakpo back healthy this group will terrorize offenses for years to come. Not to mention we have excellent depth here.

Hall, Wilson- In my opinion these are the only two secondary players worth a damn. We need major help in this area and should use the draft to address it. Also we have some young guys who could come on strong next year. Crawford and Minnifield(?) come to mind

Forbath- should be our kicker for a long while.

My point is our roster seems pretty well set. Young developing players and no real over the hill vets. I have no problem with the roster Shanny has assembled thus far. It will only get better. The key though is RGIII. I just don't get all the hate for Shanahan and what he has done in three years. He took a useless aging roster, made it younger, faster and took us to the NFC east title.

I guess some of you will never be happy or give credit where it is due. Smdh.

[jschlesi]

I think we are due for some serious changes in our secondary. Polumbus was a stop gap and I would like to see an upgrade at his position. Another weapon for RG3 would not hurt either.

[HeluCopter29]

My question is this. Why do you people think that we must have elite talent at every position to be a successful franchise. There are very few teams that have elite talent at every position.

No one's arguing that you have to be elite at every position, but you do need to be elite at enough positions (depth wise) to be a legit contender.

I'd say we currently have elite talent at QB, RB, and LB. And even at those positions, we don't have anyone I'd call an elite player except for Fletch and MAYBE Morris.

(As a note, when I say elite talent at a position I mean we have a top tier group including starters and backups. Starters of course, weigh more. Elite players are a different to me, but are certainly helpful).

That's just not going to cut it. You're right that Shanny's done a great job finding talent and deserves more credit then this thread is giving him, but we still need more elite level talent to compete. The question is do we have players that will develop or do we need to go out and get guys.

[Skinsfan4life83]

No one's arguing that you have to be elite at every position, but you do need to be elite at enough positions (depth wise) to be a legit contender.

I'd say we currently have elite talent at QB, RB, and LB. And even at those positions, we don't have anyone I'd call an elite player except for Fletch and MAYBE Morris.

(As a note, when I say elite talent at a position I mean we have a top tier group including starters and backups. Starters of course, weigh more. Elite players are a different to me, but are certainly helpful).

That's just not going to cut it. You're right that Shanny's done a great job finding talent and deserves more credit then this thread is giving him, but we still need more elite level talent to compete. The question is do we have players that will develop or do we need to go out and get guys.

I agree with this pretty much. But I think we have elite talent at QB, RB, LB, LT. With a healthy Davis I think we are above average at TE. Honestly if we can get some good young talent in the secondary we should be set up for years to come.

[TonyMania]

[QUOTE=Skinsfan4life83;9399416]We just won the NFC East for the first time since 99' and some of you people still aren't happy. Jesus Christ.



I 100% Agree .... Finally someone with a brain ....

[deejaydana]

When the year just past provided a draft with NO bust players and 2 selections who delivered on an Pro Bowl level (RG3 and Almo) then I'd say Shanahan is doing well enough to keep his job.

[Jumbo]

I 100% Agree .... Finally someone with a brain .... Some of you will never be happy

Since we seem to agree on the value of a competent brain might I suggest that someone who's been around since 2007 and still seems unaware of the famous "rule 11", go ahead and edit your post per that rule, and avoid the typical one week ban for its violation.

[TonyMania]

Thanks!! long time reader... don't normally post = )

[sabbath1981]

Only read the 1st page of this thread so I'm probably "out of my element Donny" ,,,,but who EVER considered Anthony Armstrong a Core Redskin as indicated on page one?

[Burgold]

Only read the 1st page of this thread so I'm probably "out of my element Donny" ,,,,but who EVER considered Anthony Armstrong a Core Redskin as indicated on page one?

Don't know if I considered him "core" but I had a lot of hope for him and I honestly loved his story. Little guy comes out of no where and makes good. Great American story. Wonderful underdog story. Shame he got the hammies and then never really seemed to progress. However, I will say this. He got open deep a lot. Problem was Rex Grossman didn't have the arm to get it there. With RGIII in 2011, Armstrong would have easily 10 touchdowns.

[atlSkinfan]

Missed Chris "Truck" Neild in injured list in post #239.

[pjfootballer]

Rak is injury prone and could see the chopping block soon.

I don't disagree with this. Until this year he missed how many games? Plus, you saw the drop in production in pressures and sacks with him out. Kerrigan was clearly impacted.

Hopefully, with a full year of rest and rehab he's ready to go.

Well, I do disagree with this. When a player is considered "injury prone" he hurts a shoulder, then a knee, then an arm, etc. Rak tore a muscle and the muscle retore. I mean, sometimes things like that happen. I thought he and Kerrigan had a pretty good season the year before in their first year working together, I'm not sure why you guys think the FO is going to put a 2 time pro bowler on the chopping block. He makes 2.5 million this year, which is relatively cheap, so Rak is not going anywhere and hopefully they've repaired the tear and he doesn't retear it.