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    Talking at Lunch with a couple of buddies and we were talking about what the Redskins strategy could be this offseason.

    We were talking about how the Redskins should be aggressively looking to help RG3 and the offense this offense to get this offense into a top 7 unit. This unit already is a top 15 unit in this league and adding a few more pieces would do wonders to this offense. Adding another playmaker like a Tavon Austin or a big possession Receiver this offense (Bowe, i know he is a headcase, but he is just an example i am listing).

    Adding talent to a already terrible defense would not have as much marginal benefits as it would if we added pieces on the offense. This defense would need to add a cornerback potentially to replace Hall, a potential LB to replace London and then adding safeties if Merriweather doesn't look like he belongs after he comes back from his injury. Do we look to free agency for stop-gaps again on the defense while adding young and premier talent to the offense? Do we just wait for Orakpo and others to come back from injury and hope for this front 7 to create pressure?

    With the defense looking like it will be changing coordinators, is it really worth putting our entire attention on improving this defense and making it into a mid-tier defense (20th-25th rank) defense.

    It seems like we could have RG3 talking a similar path like Peyton where the offense has to carry the burden of the weight for his early part of his career where as other QBs like Eli, Brady had a great defense to help them win.

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    I disagree... i think the offense will become better next year with return of garcon and davis. The off is scoring.. The defense either needs to switch back to q 4-3 which our roster is mostly or need all def draft picks.. we have 8 picks. 4 dbs ,2 lb, 2 dl

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    Default Re: Offense! Offense! Disregard the defense another year in 2013! Here's why!

    I think adding a piece or 2 to the OL, with Garcon and Freddy returning will do the Offense just fine. The secondary needs the most work going into next season.. IMO, there's no question about that.

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    Offense is well on their way and once our guys come back we should be OK. I seriously see us drafting a big, speedy TE and maybe a mid round WR but mainly focusing on Defense. The main reason why is because if we get a new D Coordinator, you should let him have a say in who he wants when assembling his core unit.

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    Can we really trust Fred Davis to come back healthy and contribute at a high level? In all honesty, besides Garcon, there isn't anybody on the WR corp to produce at a high level. I mean 70-80 catches. Who can do that for us?

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    A #1 wide receiver and/or a #1 CB are equal needs, IMO.

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    We're already a top 7 offense though. Number three overall in total yds, 6th in yds/gm and 7th in points/gm; and in the top 10 in most other categories (including 4th in yds/reception and 2nd in yds/pass attempt).

    I do agree to some extent though. Rodgers has had a terrible D behind him for years and they still find themselves winning double digit games. If RG3 had half the playmakers that Rodgers has, we would be walking away from teams early and often.

    Edit: I know Bowe is somewhat of a headcase, but I'd like to see him in the B&G. I think Shanahan can get him to buy into the system. With Bowe, Garcon, Davis, and Moss in the slot, we'd be scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfan View Post
    A #1 wide receiver and/or a #1 CB are equal needs, IMO.
    And there is a chance the Skins already have the WR, but no chance that they have a #1 corner. So I agree with you, but I think they need to get the corner first. This offense, offense, offense and more offense is what they have now, Defense is needed to keep teams from outscoring your high flying offense.
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    I would have to disagree.

    It would be different if we needed a francise QB, but I think the guy we picked up in the draft this year, might be ok ;-)

    If this season has showed us anything so far, it's that it doesn't matter if you can score 30 points a game, if your defence is letting in 37!

    I know that the NFL has become more of a passing league, but I believe the odd adage applies, Offense wins game, Defense wins championships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWFLSkins View Post
    And there is a chance the Skins already have the WR, but no chance that they have a #1 corner. So I agree with you, but I think they need to get the corner first. This offense, offense, offense and more offense is what they have now, Defense is needed to keep teams from outscoring your high flying offense.
    I don't regard Garcon as a #1. I have him as a decent #2.

    The goal is to make the greatest improvement in the team, not to equalize offense and defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Widget_5 View Post
    ...I know that the NFL has become more of a passing league, but I believe the odd adage applies, Offense wins game, Defense wins championships.
    Can you explain why preventing the opponent from scoring seven points is more important than scoring seven points if the goal is to win championships?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfan View Post
    I don't regard Garcon as a #1. I have him as a decent #2.

    The goal is to make the greatest improvement in the team, not to equalize offense and defense.
    Thats why I rather have a top 5 offense and a #25 ranked defense instead of a Top 10 offense and a #18 ranked defense.

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    It will take some shrewd maneuvering by Allen and Mike to improve the team to a level we would like. The cap situation, extending Davis?, etc...

    I'd love to get Bowe, but feel Garcon is their WR1 choice. I cannot see them spending WR1 type money in the offseason. That money will go to the CB position in all likelihood.
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    I understand the idea, but disagree. Getting a healthy Garcon back, with Hank #2 and moss in the slot should be good. Our offense is playing pretty well this year without our star WR, with him it could be a big addition.

    Defensively, i think we will cut Hall and sign a #1 CB (DMC, Sean Smith, Grimes), use our 2nd rounder for the best available cb to play the nickle. we still need a fs and LB/DL/OL depth which can be addressed with the additonal draft picks. just my opinion

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    Default Re: Offense! Offense! Disregard the defense another year in 2013! Here's why!

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfan View Post
    I don't regard Garcon as a #1. I have him as a decent #2.

    The goal is to make the greatest improvement in the team, not to equalize offense and defense.
    To be fair...

    There are only a handful of #1's in the NFL: Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, AJ Green, Calvin Johnson, Reggie Wayne and MAYBE Brandon Marshall.

    Getting a #1 receiver would be a major luxury unless come draft time the BPA is a guy we think could be a #1 receiver, and it's not likely to happen in round 2.

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