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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    Quote Originally Posted by RonArtest15 View Post
    So, are people mad at Shanahan for saying it...or because his words ring true?
    Mad because he said it but madder because he believes it..

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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    Realistically, our chances at the post season are very slim. But I still want our team fired up and coming out to win every single game. I don't want to see anyone laying down or packing it in. It's not like we have a first round pick that we can position ourselves for


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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    Quote Originally Posted by RonArtest15 View Post
    So, are people mad at Shanahan for saying it...or because his words ring true?
    I'm not upset with that direction at all, but understand why it tough to hear from the head coach on the weekend after Halloween with 5 divisional games ahead of us.
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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skinz4Life12 View Post
    Realistically, our chances at the post season are very slim. But I still want our team fired up and coming out to win every single game. I don't want to see anyone laying down or packing it in. It's not like we have a first round pick that we can position ourselves for
    Hell, if Shanny is mailing it in, might as well make the rest of the picks we have more valuable; St. Louis be damned.

    Though, the guy should have done this last season. You know, like the Colts.

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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    someone please name me 1 team that is in playoff contention that has lost it's #1 WR, #1 TE, a #1 LB, a #1 linemen, and two safeties. Everyone keeps saying that every team has injuries, but these aren't role players or slot recievers. These are key guys in key roles that have impacted this team tremendously. 1 CB goes down on the Jets and their defense disappears. If Arian Foster, Andre Johnson, JJ Watt and Brian Cushing were all out, you think the Texans would be winning a lot of games? If Roddy White and Tony Gonzales were iout in week 2, would ATL would be undefeated? And that's only 1 side of the ball.

    the good teams are healthy or maybe a little banged up on one side of the ball. Today was an embarrassment, but once Sleepy went down I knew this team was in trouble, BIG TIME. The Giants are banged up on D, but their offense is healthy. The closest to our situation is the Steelers, but they still have 2 elite WRs and a borderline elite WR.

    just stop saying every team deals with injuries, because NO team deals with these kinds of injuries. This team wasn't going to be special this year with the talent we have on the team, but with these kinds of injuries, there's little chance of us being playoff worthy.

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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    Really what do fans expect, the injuries we have suffered on both sides of the all with crippling cap penalty is way to much to overcome. The writing was on the wall last week after the Pitt game. We lost our #1 receiver in game one, we lost two defensive starters in game two. We lost our leading receiver and tight end two weeks ago. I am amazed he didn't call the season last week. Our defense is trash, our offensive line is oaky when we an run, but we get behind and we are in a world of trouble.

    While yes the playoffs are done, I am still interested to see who steps up for the remainder of the year. I know rgiii and Morris will.

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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    To me I guess the loss was really disappointed Shanny. While acting like you have given up is not good for a HC, it happens, especially when you went out there to win and got trounced. Who wouldn't.

    Now we have 5 pages (and probably more coming) of 'redskins' fans dissing everyone, Snyder, Allen, Kyle... players... right down to the ball boys. The threads on ES over the past 4 weeks have been doing that successfully (sorry OP to digress from the topic).

    I'm disappointed as anyone, but to start to second-guess and rip the team, ehh... forget it... not worth it.
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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    Coaches do tend to get emotional. And, Shanny is no different. After the close games we had, especially against the Steeler, I am sure he was expecting the veterans on the team to show up and play inspired football on both sides of the ball.

    Trent Williams' mistake cost us a touch down. The vets on defense just didn't show up.

    Is it realistic to expect that the Skins will make the playoffs with this kind of play? I don't think so.

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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    Quote Originally Posted by afkidd View Post
    someone please name me 1 team that is in playoff contention that has lost it's #1 WR, #1 TE, a #1 LB, a #1 linemen, and two safeties. Everyone keeps saying that every team has injuries, but these aren't role players or slot recievers. These are key guys in key roles that have impacted this team tremendously. 1 CB goes down on the Jets and their defense disappears. If Arian Foster, Andre Johnson, JJ Watt and Brian Cushing were all out, you think the Texans would be winning a lot of games? If Roddy White and Tony Gonzales were iout in week 2, would ATL would be undefeated? And that's only 1 side of the ball.

    the good teams are healthy or maybe a little banged up on one side of the ball. Today was an embarrassment, but once Sleepy went down I knew this team was in trouble, BIG TIME. The Giants are banged up on D, but their offense is healthy. The closest to our situation is the Steelers, but they still have 2 elite WRs and a borderline elite WR.

    just stop saying every team deals with injuries, because NO team deals with these kinds of injuries. This team wasn't going to be special this year with the talent we have on the team, but with these kinds of injuries, there's little chance of us being playoff worthy.
    Injuries do not explain being the most penalized team, blowing assignments,etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by afkidd View Post
    someone please name me 1 team that is in playoff contention that has lost it's #1 WR, #1 TE, a #1 LB, a #1 linemen, and two safeties. Everyone keeps saying that every team has injuries, but these aren't role players or slot recievers. These are key guys in key roles that have impacted this team tremendously. 1 CB goes down on the Jets and their defense disappears. If Arian Foster, Andre Johnson, JJ Watt and Brian Cushing were all out, you think the Texans would be winning a lot of games? If Roddy White and Tony Gonzales were iout in week 2, would ATL would be undefeated? And that's only 1 side of the ball.

    the good teams are healthy or maybe a little banged up on one side of the ball. Today was an embarrassment, but once Sleepy went down I knew this team was in trouble, BIG TIME. The Giants are banged up on D, but their offense is healthy. The closest to our situation is the Steelers, but they still have 2 elite WRs and a borderline elite WR.

    just stop saying every team deals with injuries, because NO team deals with these kinds of injuries. This team wasn't going to be special this year with the talent we have on the team, but with these kinds of injuries, there's little chance of us being playoff worthy.
    The packers had 15 people on IR in 2010. Can't tell how many are starters. Pretty sure their #1 TE and RB were out. Don't know what the rest were.

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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter_R View Post
    Didn't work with Gibbs just a few years ago. Snyder probably felt like he had to do it to get Shanahan to be the coach.
    There were insinuations about how Shanahan would coach here for Snyder eventually all the way back to 2006 or so. I hated the idea then and definitely hated it when it went down. He wouldn't have taken the job without control and he's never won with it.

    Still I think he's going to get his 5 years. With the injuries this year we have no idea how good this team would have been but the thing is, we could still have a bunch of injuries next year. Injuries happen every year. Last year it was 1/2 the OL, Cooley, Jenkins, Moss, Hankerson, a few of the RB's, Otogwe, Landry. What will the list be next year? We're never going to have a season without injuries. The Packers won the Super Bowl 2 years ago with the most injuries in the league.
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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    If people want to give Shanny a free pass for the injuries than so be it......9 losses out of 10 home games says enough for me. We had the Giants beat with all of our backups in didn't we? Excuses are for losers and the coaches and players in the NFL will tell you the same thing.

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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    When we hired Shanny I was of the mindset that we should give any coach we hire at least 3 years to implement his scheme and evaluate after that. He's had his three years (after this year) and I'm ready to move on. We'll see if it happens, but I was never a fan of his and I would much rather we go the normal route and try to get one of the hot assistant coaches who's looking for a job, I mean if Oakland can do it, why can't we?
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    Default Re: If Shanahan's given up, what hope do we really have with him? A pretty darn disappointed and disillusioned long time backer of the HC.

    They just played Shanny's quote on NBC Football Night; their analysts feel the same way about it that most of us do.
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