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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 View Post
    Yeah, I thought Merriweather wasn't well regarded in NE. Ppl are expecting a lot from him.

    Oh and everyone needs to chill on Garcon. IF he plays, he won't be able to provide much with a busted foot and I am not labeling him a stud until he plays more than 5 quarters
    NE has terrible pass defense still.

    People aren't expecting a lot, just some flashes of good like we saw in preseason. Really even average play would be a welcomed improvement over Madieu Williams. That is what people are excited about, that even a mediocre Merriweather should be an improvement over Madieu.
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    Default Re: Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

    Aren't Williams and Hall playing out of position?

    With Merriweather in, everything gets back to almost normal in the secondary, it should be a big improvement scheme wise.
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    Default Re: Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade7 View Post
    But I'm really asking myself, this year, with what we have right now, can Garcon and Meriweather coming back make any bit of difference? Will them being healthy and starting in the Philly home game coming off the bye-week be enough at WR and DB to beat Philly?
    I think we have enough to beat the Eagles withoutGarcon and Meriweather.

    Truth be told I don't expect much from either player. Garcon's injury has kept him out for the better part of the season. I'm sure the rest he received during the bye makes him believe he's better but it doesn't seem physically possible for him to actually be better.

    I never thought Meriweather was that good to begin with. I just thought he might be some degree better then what we have. But lets be frank. Meriweather was a talented but undisciplined, risk taking S that was cut in the same year by teams that needed Safety help. He is still all the above except now he's also returning from injury.

    If we're gonna win this game its on the player's we have now to step-up their play:

    o stop making mistakes on the back-end like the bomb to Edwards against the Panthers
    o stop jumping offsides; stop the formation shift penalities
    o be consistent running the ball
    o catch the ball
    o Ryan Kerrigan needs to win a higher % of his 1-vs-1 match-ups
    o someone on the DL has to step up
    o imho stop rotating Jackson/Wilson let Jackson stay there I think the pass rush will come, but he's undeniably made gamechanging plays from that spot in the pass game
    o defensive calls need to be more on point

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    Default Re: Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

    Quote Originally Posted by elkabong82 View Post
    NE has terrible pass defense still.

    People aren't expecting a lot, just some flashes of good like we saw in preseason. Really even average play would be a welcomed improvement over Madieu Williams. That is what people are excited about, that even a mediocre Merriweather should be an improvement over Madieu.
    People often set aside, Meriweather is a guy in his prime age out there. He was thrown off in NE after a pro bowl type year. Which would NOT have happened on any team other than there. Brandon was a guy who took what he was doing for granted out there, things got to him. Bill shook things up, he knew he didn't want to go through his new contract, and he wasn't benefiting that team anymore. Bill made a statement to everyone, that your job is on the line. It didn't work out for Brandon in Chicago. THIS GUY IS HUNGRY. He has missed the entire year so far, he has had accident prone events rupture his comeback. He is HUNGRY.

    Only thing that's a shame here is that this is Meriweather and not Tanard Jackson. Brandon can make plays, but he's more of a Reed Doughty with ball hawking skills. Jackson is that cover guy. STILL, glad to get a body back there.
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    Default Re: Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

    Glad that Garçon is going out there. The #1 CB will cover him leaving other guys available for decent plays. For our defense, anything different is better. Merriweather or even my grandfather is an upgrade for the secondary lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rypien1191 View Post
    They're going to shut Garcon down now that the competitive portion of the season is over.
    That's ok, I invision Paulsen and Morris having a big day if they do. Paulsen gets his first TD this week.

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    Default Re: Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

    one thing I want to know about Garcon's injury. Why can't he tape his toes together? I know that wouldn't deal with the pain, but wouldn't it help with the stability problem mentioned?

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    Default Re: Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

    Quote Originally Posted by elkabong82 View Post
    NE has terrible pass defense still.

    People aren't expecting a lot, just some flashes of good like we saw in preseason. Really even average play would be a welcomed improvement over Madieu Williams. That is what people are excited about, that even a mediocre Merriweather should be an improvement over Madieu.
    I would expect that Merriweather will take snaps away from Doughty at SS and be used closer to the LOS - Williams is still going to play deep safety. You don't want Merriweather playing deep coverage much that's just not his strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLink View Post
    Glad that Garçon is going out there. The #1 CB will cover him leaving other guys available for decent plays. For our defense, anything different is better. Merriweather or even my grandfather is an upgrade for the secondary lol.
    That is a good assessment, I didn't even think about that.

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    Default Re: Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

    No. We really suck. We let Rogers and Landry go.....top picks....this front office is pretty dumb. Even thought I love Shanahan he is a poor GM. At the end of the day track record is the only thing that counts. He did a great thing to get RGIII but his defense and love for Haslett is totally misplaced. Haslett defenses have sucked when he was a d coordinator

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    Default Re: Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

    My opinion is the games fall perfectly for the skins and if they were to win the next 3 they would be in first place in the NFC EAST. Problem is with how they been playing I just dont see how they do it. I hope I am wrong but its been forever since weve won 2 in a row let alone 3 plus.
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    Default Re: Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

    I'd be shocked if Garcon makes it through the entire game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLink View Post
    Glad that Garçon is going out there. The #1 CB will cover him leaving other guys available for decent plays. For our defense, anything different is better. Merriweather or even my grandfather is an upgrade for the secondary lol.
    If the #1 is Nnamdi, it shouldn't matter who he's covering, decent plays should be on the table. lol

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    Default Re: Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

    I stand by my "yes" vote.

    Garcon should be able to catch even if he can't cut and run like he can when he's healthy. Even if Meriweather isn't an all-pro, he'll be better at tackling and reduced mental mistakes that is killing Williams. Medaui is just taking bad angles as well, and with our defense pushing to keep people in front of him, every missed tackle makes a difference. A better tackling defense in general will help us stay closer to the low 20s range which we are capable of.
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    Default Re: Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

    I don't see why, outside of one catch Garcon hasn't done anything and meriweather is an average or below acquisition. Perhaps Garcon is game changing, perhaps not, but Meriweather isn't all that

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    Default Re: Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

    Quote Originally Posted by Pride View Post
    I don't see why, outside of one catch Garcon hasn't done anything
    He was injured. On that catch. If you weren't aware. lol

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