Garcon + Meriweather = Win over Philly???

[greenspandan]

uhmmm before people get their hopes too high for a defensive turnraound, please remember that merriweather is a safety who lost his last job to a WIDE RECEIVER playing safety for the first time.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

uhmmm before people get their hopes too high for a defensive turnraound, please remember that merriweather is a safety who lost his last job to a WIDE RECEIVER playing safety for the first time.

Yeah, I thought Merriweather wasn't well regarded in NE. Ppl are expecting a lot from him.

Oh and everyone needs to chill on Garcon. IF he plays, he won't be able to provide much with a busted foot and I am not labeling him a stud until he plays more than 5 quarters

[Riggo-toni]

I would love to sweep Philly this year like we did to NY last year. Hatred of Vick + hatred of Eagles + hatred of stinkin' Eagirls fans. I don't care that much if we lose all the other non-Dallas games of the year, but I want this one BADLY!

[random]

Unpopular as it may seem the skins are hiding some issues with RG3 I think. It's the only explanation for the play calling and the offense that we've seen. In the first half of this game we saw a traditional drop back with play action. When that stopped working they had to change it up to something different in the 2nd half and what did we see? Option. What happened in other games when the offense was shut down at first and the skins had to change things up? Option. I think when the offensive gameplan doesn't work the skins have to go back to 'basics' or what RG3 knows. This isn't necessarily a bad thing because he's a rookie. A great rookie who has exceeded expectations on many levels. I'm just pointing out that the offense does have some issues and I don't think that having Garcon in the game changes any of that.

As for the defense that's completely up in the air. I truly believe that most of the issues are due to a lack of pass rush and the safety position. If the skins could generate a rush, even a small one, the corners and secondary would have an easier time in coverage. The more time the QB has the more chances the receivers have time to find open spaces in zone coverage. Or exploit the horrible safety play we've seen and burn someone deep on blown coverage. Merriweather may actually help with that if he knows where he's suppose to be and the corners trust him to help over the top. However, to think that he will be able to change the game enough to impact anything is a huge stretch.

I voted yes. Why? Because the skins can beat Philly with or without Garcon. They can play with anyone when they are playing well. We've seen that before. The last two weeks they have regressed but they have lots of time to prepare for the next game. If they drop the next game and get beat badly you know it's time for some wholesale changes. I'm not advocating that Shannahan needs to go yet but something has to be done to shake things up at the end of the year. I hope they keep Shanny and stick with ONE damn system for years instead of changing all the time.

I think the only thing the coaches are trying to hide is their lack of faith in the skill positions outside of morris. Also the panthers didnt really stop anything. The offense just couldnt punch it in the redzone and some drives were stopped by stupid penalties.

[Ricky Tan]

Yeah, I thought Merriweather wasn't well regarded in NE. Ppl are expecting a lot from him.

Oh and everyone needs to chill on Garcon. IF he plays, he won't be able to provide much with a busted foot and I am not labeling him a stud until he plays more than 5 quarters

New poster here. I agree that it would be unreasonable to expect a lot from him on a bad foot. I think it would be better for him and the team in the long run if was put on the shelf for the rest of the season, at this point.

[Bigmuss1]

I love it when fans decide players aren't very good because they got hurt. We see a certain WR run around the field like crazy scoring TD's, (the longest we have seen from scrimmage in a LONG time) and unfortunately a stupid toe injury sidelines him. Now, he's no good....ridiculous

[LoudMouth12thMan]

Trust me...I'm sure we will be saving Vick and Reid's respective jobs in 2 weeks.

Yes....exactly! That's what this team does, and until proven otherwise we shouldn't be talking about this player or that player making a difference. It just doesn't matter at this point, again, until we (or they) prove otherwise.

[Bacon]

Couldn't click "no" fast enough. Meriweather hasn't played a down this season and he's expected to turn around the worst secondary in the NFL with no pressure from the line to help them? smh

Garcon, I hope, would make a difference. But he won't start against Philly, so it's moot.

If the coaches get the players ready and they show an ounce of passion for the game while minimizing penalties, unlike last week, they can beat a crappy Eagles team handily at home. If they come out sloppy and uninterested, then the answer should be obvious. Meriweather and Garcon might fire the players up a bit, but there's a lot more wrong with this team than those two being out of the lineup.

[elkabong82]

I think the only thing the coaches are trying to hide is their lack of faith in the skill positions outside of morris. Also the panthers didnt really stop anything. The offense just couldnt punch it in the redzone and some drives were stopped by stupid penalties.

Skins faced Steelers and had 12 drops from receivers, so RG3's performance suffered. Carolina's D is actually good vs. the pass (31st in points allowed to WRs in fantasy), and our receivers are lackluster. 2 games is all it has been though, and the offense w/ RG3 can certainly bounce back, especially if Robinson comes back after the bye fully healthy. He and Moss are the only real deep threats IMO. as Hanky is way too inconsistent and has alligator arms, and Morgan is only the over the middle guy.

I agree that the weakness is at receiver, which most folks know.

[rskin72]

Unpopular as it may seem the skins are hiding some issues with RG3 I think. It's the only explanation for the play calling and the offense that we've seen. In the first half of this game we saw a traditional drop back with play action. When that stopped working they had to change it up to something different in the 2nd half and what did we see? Option. What happened in other games when the offense was shut down at first and the skins had to change things up? Option. I think when the offensive gameplan doesn't work the skins have to go back to 'basics' or what RG3 knows. This isn't necessarily a bad thing because he's a rookie. A great rookie who has exceeded expectations on many levels. I'm just pointing out that the offense does have some issues and I don't think that having Garcon in the game changes any of that.

Think the issues are more related to pass protection, and the fact that most of our healthy WR's have had hands of stone over the past couple of games. Sure RGIII is a rookie, and is making some mistakes as a QB. I listen to the radio broadcast for the games, and I hear Sonny, and Doc, point out when receivers were open and RGIII went a different route for whatever reason. While I did not see the Panther game, I did watch the Steeler game and RGIII was hitting the receivers in the hands, and they were dropping the passes. That is not on RGIII.

We just do not have a lot of playmakers on either side of the ball, and less with Rak, Garcon, and Davis gone. Note that our passing offense really started to struggle with the loss of Davis. While Garcon is still pretty much an unknown, he did show more than enough during Pre-season and regular season to be very excited if he were to return to our lineup, healthy. That would give us a sure handed, fast, WR that defenses could not ignore. Right now, none of our WR's are putting any type of scare into the defenses, and this is impacting how they play RGIII. Don't think that the presence of Meriweather will be that significant, but god only knows that he could not be that much worse than what we have seen already.

We do not have the horses that Philly does. Yes, they are down, but heaven only knows we seem to be the cure for what ails many teams.....and sure no one has forgotten the Monday Night Massacre. If that team starts to click on the day they play us, it could get ugly again....especially if Kyle does not figure out how to get the Offense clicking again.

[PapaLazarou]

If Morris ever slows down or gets injured... holy s**t, this team will look bad

[FrFan]

Since Shanahan didn't sound optimistic, I fear that Garçon might end up on IR with surgery and will be done for the season.

[LetThePointsSoar]

Since Shanahan didn't sound optimistic, I fear that Garçon might end up on IR with surgery and will be done for the season.

Yahoo sports is saying that not only is it doubtful that Garcon goes after the bye, it's likely he's going to have season ending surgery...I've been stashing him on my fantasy bench all year as well, but it's not looking good for Pierre, unfortunately. ****.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

If Morris ever slows down or gets injured... holy s**t, this team will look bad

We'd be 110% ******...Imagine having 2012 version Royster as the starter every week

[Bishop Hammer]

Barring reagrivating his toe; this is a step in the right direction for next year. Garcon can develop more on field rapport with Griffin.