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Thread: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller View Post
    ahh, but did he cause the injuries?
    Seriously? Every team has injuries. Good teams deal with it. The Packers won the Superbowl with half their team on the sideline.
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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    I'd say $18M in the hole doesn't help.
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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sticksboi05 View Post
    Seriously? Every team has injuries. Good teams deal with it. The Packers won the Superbowl with half their team on the sideline.
    5 years of Ron Wolf drafts is a pretty high bar to climb if you want to compare "depth". I don't think there's a team in the league other than the 2010 Packers that could have pulled that off.

    I think our depth has held up fairly well though it doesn't look it - I think a competent DC gets more mileage out of our defensive depth, and the fact that we can even put up 330 yards at all starting our 2nd string TE (who was 3rd string last year and in preseason), our #3 and #4 WRs, and our backup RT with a rookie QB, even a great rookie QB like RGIII is says a lot about the depth on offense. I do want to see better playcalling (though Andy Reid got away with imo worse playcalling for years in Philly) and I do want us to go vertical more and use gimmicks less. But if they feel that developing RGIII this way is better than throwing the entire playbook at him, then so be it.
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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Coaching. Still undisciplined. Still tons of mental mistakes. Still blown coverages. Still poor tackling technique. Still lack of preparation. Still outrageous playcalling in critical situations. Still wondering why certain players made the roster (Banks), still no depth granted we were dealt a bad hand with the cap penalties. Oh and still no urgency when we are down two posessions in the 4th quarter. Poor clock management I mean Christ we could go on for days about the poor coaching here.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    While I do think the injuries to our starters (which, in turn, also involves our lack of quality depth) has really hurt us, I am really partial to the idea that coaching is involved.

    I don't know what happened to Shanahan, if it's age or the number of years he's been coaching, but he isn't that mastermind he was in Denver. A mastermind who, I thought, rivaled Bill Belichick in his ability to pick out solid football players and his ability to prepare his team.

    Until I see tangible improvement in the areas of basic execution and discipline, I'm done with Shanahan.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller View Post
    I guess at this point, the question should be asked...which of these three is the biggest reason for the Redskins 3-6 record?
    Of course all three factors mesh together.

    But, if I had to pick "thee" singular reason it would be injuries: Garcon, Davis, Jammal Brown (although predictable), Helu, Hightower, DEFENSE: Orkapo, Carriker, Meriweather, Fletcher (obviously playing hurt imho), Bernstine (not really a big injury but I guy I thought had a chance to contribute considering the lack of quality S on this roster)

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    I went with injuries, because of who the injuries occurred to, star players not playing will hurt any team.
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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    I think penalties should also be a part of the argument. I didn't realize until they announced it during the game yesterday, but the Redskins are the most penalized team in the NFL? Yikes. And that made me think, how many touchdowns have we had called back this season due to penalty? Like 5 or 6???

    It blows me away that, even with the lack of "play makers" we have at the receiver position currently, the Washington Redskins are the #2 offense in the NFL http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total

    It just pisses me off when i see all this media slobbery of Andrew Luck, when RG3 would be getting the same praise if he just had a defense because he'd be winning games. Luck gets the benefit of having the 5th ranked pass defense, and the 11th ranked defense overall.
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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Pretty much. I'm now convinced that the Colts intentionally tanked that season. Absolutely convinced. There is no way you can legitimately go 2-14 and then a year later, your talent base is already looking like a playoff talent base. Luck has played good but not great. Maybe they just drafted that well, but last I checked they didn't draft any OL or any stud defenders.

    Or maybe it's hiring the guy who coached the Ravens defense.
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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by darrelgreenie View Post
    Of course all three factors mesh together.

    But, if I had to pick "thee" singular reason it would be injuries
    I realize that, but I wanted people to have to pick their main one, because how can you objectively put the lion's share of the blame anywhere else after you do that? Which means how do you justify yelling for a coach to be fired, AFTER you admit that Injuries have decimated the team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngchew View Post
    It just pisses me off when i see all this media slobbery of Andrew Luck, when RG3 would be getting the same praise if he just had a defense because he'd be winning games. Luck gets the benefit of having the 5th ranked pass defense, and the 11th ranked defense overall.
    With that same defense this team would be at least 6-3 versus 3-6. No question in my mind at all.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    It isn't one factor, but many that are contributing to the demise of this team. I believe that the injuries on this team have the least amount of impact on this team because when rak and carriker were in there this defense was getting creamed already, if anything, if the two original starting safeties were playing maybe our secondary would be better, who knows. I believe it's a real lack of playmaking talent at all positions except for qb and rb as well as poor coaching especially on the defensive side of the ball. Now with that being said, we are only 3 games out of first place and 1/2 game out of second place barring the eagles lose tonight, so we are still in it if this team can somehow get it together for the stretch run.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Depth & Coaching, I picked depth. Any way you cut it, neither head of the two headed Shallen monster is living up to the hype

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    4th running back- got lucky
    2stars off dline
    Dowdy is starting lol starting?
    Garçon stil has puffytoe

    And we stop good calls so bbanks
    Debacle calls come in. Try to get a yd from shotgun.

    Wr drop 6 a game,

    penalized like the Raiders

    If the offense doesn't score every other series we lose.
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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Robert Griffin Experience View Post
    Pretty much. I'm now convinced that the Colts intentionally tanked that season. Absolutely convinced. There is no way you can legitimately go 2-14 and then a year later, your talent base is already looking like a playoff talent base. Luck has played good but not great. Maybe they just drafted that well, but last I checked they didn't draft any OL or any stud defenders.

    Or maybe it's hiring the guy who coached the Ravens defense.
    Exactly. They were smart and tanked but always had more talent than we did...I think now we can put better coaching on there too. They also had a pretty nice draft as well. We got a meaningless win in Seattle and New York and had to give up the farm for RG3. A top 10 pick would look pretty good next year.

    Oh well, I dont advocate tanking, it sends a bad message to the team if they catch wind and punishes paying fans but its tough looking back in hindsight.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    How about another choice: Not enough quality starters.

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