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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by darrelgreenie View Post
    To equate the players we lost to the hypothetical players that Houston would lose is laughable
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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by darrelgreenie View Post
    To equate the players we lost to the hypothetical players that Houston would lose is laughable
    Why is it laughable? I'm looking at the losses we had, and comparing them to the Texans, who also run a 3-4 and have a solid running game. If you want to argue they'd still perform well, that's fine, but I'd like to see an argument.

    My point there was that we lost 7 definite starters and a couple of runningback contributors, and yet people keep saying "we should overcome it anyway." I'd like to see every team take the same hits to their depth chart we have and play at that same level. Are there teams that would? Probably. Are they the norm? Most definitely not.

    For another team, imagine the Giants lost JPP, Tuck, Rolle and Phillips (who is already out), on defense, and Nicks, Brown, Wilson, Locklear, and Bennett on offense. Would they still do well? Probably they'd do decently on offense, they'd still have Cruz and Bradshaw, and their Oline isn't really good to begin with, but on defense, losing JPP and Tuck, and losing Rolle over the top (in addition to Phillips who they are currently without) would make things very difficult for them, I'd have to imagine.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Only thing that shouldn't be compared is JJ Watt and Carikker. Maybe if Carikker was compared to Jared Crick or Earl Mitchell.
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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Our biggest loss to this team was Orakpo. I mean other than that I don't see how injuries have anything to do with it. Yeah we lost Carikker, but I mean is DT our biggest problem. We have by far the worst secondary in the NFL. I mean It makes me sick to watch them. As for the offense I blame the play calling. Your only going to be able to play like a college offense for so long in the NFL. The coaches need to let RG3 pass in the pocket more and need to run Morris more. This 3 players in the backfield and option offense is getting old. With that being said its hard to do much on offense when you have to score a TD on every position, because the defense is so bad.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf85 View Post
    Our biggest loss to this team was Orakpo. I mean other than that I don't see how injuries have anything to do with it. Yeah we lost Carikker, but I mean is DT our biggest problem. We have by far the worst secondary in the NFL
    We never had Brandon Meriweather and Tanard Jackson on the field together at the same time. They were supposed to be our starters, and from Day #1 neither have been on the field.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by pjfootballer View Post
    Only thing that shouldn't be compared is JJ Watt and Carikker. Maybe if Carikker was compared to Jared Crick or Earl Mitchell.
    Yeah, Watt's a bit much, but Antonio Smith isn't an entirely unfair comparison. I imagine Carriker's stats would improve quite a bit if we had a Watt-esque guy on the other end eating and beating double teams every play.

    The main thing is, pretend they lost a starter on the Dline.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    D. None of the above.

    In three years mike has assembled a line that struggles in basic pass protection

    We can run and so can they, but its a passing league.

    I wonder if Mike will admit the game has changed significantly in the past decade. Heck, he abhors hurry up and must be one of the few coaches to do so.

    5000 passing yards from all last year playoff QBs (everyone but Timmy) says a lot to me.
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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller View Post
    We never had Brandon Meriweather and Tanard Jackson on the field together at the same time. They were supposed to be our starters, and from Day #1 neither have been on the field.
    The players that we have in those positions have not developed and are making the same mistakes they were making in week 1. How many times does Madieu Williams need to get beat over the top before the coaches learn they are proving the definition of insanity. Keep giving Williams the same responsibility and expect a different result.

    This game is not only about talent. It's also about scheme and coaching ability. As was proven when our defense gave up 12 receptions to Amendola in the first half. Yes, that's correct 12 catches by the Rams first receiving option. Coaches will usually make adjustments in their play calling or assignments when they continually get beat. I have yet to see it from our staff.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    I voted for injuries as I think it has had a huge impact but obviously our record is a result in some combination of all three.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by #98QBKiller View Post
    It's a combination of injuries and coaching and it's falling mostly on the defensive side of the ball.
    Agreed. ith decent coaching and better mindset's in crunch time (St Louis game, Giants gaem) we easily could be 6-3, or better. smh I feel like it's the same old story every year.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    All of the above

    The secondary is terrible and I had little confidence before the season with Meriweather and Jackson as our starters. It's a toss up wether we should focus on getting better targets and protections for RGIII on the offense or if we should just cut loose this all time NFL worst defense and start new with free agency and draft picks.... I think I'm leaning toward the latter and hoping these dropped passes are just a bad streak and they will work themselves out.
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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    As of 6:15 PM EST on Monday 11/5/12, Jim Haslett is still employed by the Redskins organization. SMFH

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    I voted for lack of quality backup and that's due to the $36M cap hit.
    Jim Haslett is a horrible coach.

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    Default Re: Poll: Which has contributed the most to the Washington Redskins 3-6 record? Injuries, Lack of Quality Depth, or Coaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyHolt View Post
    D. None of the above.

    In three years mike has assembled a line that struggles in basic pass protection

    We can run and so can they, but its a passing league.

    I wonder if Mike will admit the game has changed significantly in the past decade. Heck, he abhors hurry up and must be one of the few coaches to do so.

    5000 passing yards from all last year playoff QBs (everyone but Timmy) says a lot to me.
    only 3 qb's total had over 5000 yards last season, 1 got it by 38 yards

    the rest:
    Smith - 3144
    dalton- 3398
    flacco 3610
    big ben 4077
    ryan 4177
    schaub/yates 3428
    ?? tebow/orton since orton went to KC

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyHolt View Post
    D. None of the above.

    In three years mike has assembled a line that struggles in basic pass protection

    We can run and so can they, but its a passing league.

    I wonder if Mike will admit the game has changed significantly in the past decade. Heck, he abhors hurry up and must be one of the few coaches to do so.

    5000 passing yards from all last year playoff QBs (everyone but Timmy) says a lot to me.
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