WP: The Redskins might be playing to evaluate players, but it’s too early for Mike Shanahan to say so

[Duckus]

I don't care - I am glad Shanahan said it. At least he is being honest. This season IS over. We are all adults and we might as well talk about the team realistically. It is time to evaluate the organization, starting at the very top.

I am not calling for Shanahan head. But the option to fire him needs to be strongly considered.

[MartinC]

And to me the lack of progress made in this area in particular is what makes me more amenable to change then I would be if they had made progress with Griffin.

I can see that logic. I'm hoping we see the offense expanding after the bye when we self scout to include some 3 and 5 step drop passing. One of the questions in doing more 3 and 5 step drop passing though is the ability of the O'Line to pass protect without the read option and play pass element.

[Skins Wingman]

i have no problem with another regime change, but i wouldnt want them to try and make rg3 a pocket passer like they did with vick. it makes no sense to take away one of a players best assets to be more prototype nfl.

[MattFancy]

Miami, Seattle, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis have all improved in less than 3 years. Shall I go on with more examples? Again, I was not expecting a playoff berth, but I expected improvement and there is ZERO improvement with this team.

There's some improvement. I'd say the offense is better than we've seen over the last 4 or 5 years easily. But our defense is the worst I've seen in some time, maybe even worse than 2006.

I really don't know what they can do from here on out. Our offense is good enough to hang with most teams, but our defense is so bad that it doesn't matter. If Haslett is still the D coordinator next year, Shanny needs to get the boot. I'm a huge Shanny supporter, but when you're defense is not improving, you have to make a change.

[authentic]

i have no problem with another regime change, but i wouldnt want them to try and make rg3 a pocket passer like they did with vick. it makes no sense to take away one of a players best assets to be more prototype nfl.

RG3 is a better passer from the pocket than Vick, which is why its better than they begin to move toward a more conventional offense at some point in the near future.

[darrelgreenie]

I can see that logic. I'm hoping we see the offense expanding after the bye when we self scout to include some 3 and 5 step drop passing. One of the questions in doing more 3 and 5 step drop passing though is the ability of the O'Line to pass protect without the read option and play pass element.

Imo one of the benefits of 3-step passing, and 5 -step to a lesser degree, is it all but nullifies the OL. IIRC the ball should be coming out in 1.3s or less. We give Polumbus help (like we have all season) and scheme some open receivers we should be okay (imo). I watch a decent amount of Colts game and our fans claim our OL is better then theirs and they run a alot of 5-7 step drop passing.

I'm still surprised that we run read option almost exclusively from Pistol and very little (it at all) from Spread formations. Its hard to complain about the offense because its been effective, but I still think Griffin is being used at a sub-optimal level. If we're going borrow from the college game we should borrow more from Baylor and they ran far more Spread read option then Pistol read-option.

[kobra860]

Shanny using reverse psychology to motivate his player. I am sure no coach does that.

The media is not going to buy that. They take everything for face value.

[thesubmittedone]

He went onto say the coaches take their part in the blame. AFTER he as good as said the year was done and we're evaluating for the coming years.

Take individual parts out of context and go ahead and do 'your thing.' We all deserve a losing a team after all. Isn't that how it goes?

Hail.

Lol, my response was to include everything he said. Thats simply the antithesis to taking anything out of context. Before or after has nothing to do with that, the fact is he did say it and its being overlooked. Furthermore, he immediately stated we're not out of it mathematically after it alluding to his evaluation being more that he's so disappointed we couldnt come up with this win that he has to really look at everyone again. You really can be foolish at times, man.

But, Whatever makes you feel better.

[Skins Wingman]

RG3 is a better passer from the pocket than Vick, which is why its better than they begin to move toward a more conventional offense at some point in the near future.

im all about introducing him to more of a drop back system. just dont want them to completely take away the option and running part of his game.

[Diesel Hog]

I don't care - I am glad Shanahan said it. At least he is being honest. This season IS over. We are all adults and we might as well talk about the team realistically. It is time to evaluate the organization, starting at the very top.

I am not calling for Shanahan head. But the option to fire him needs to be strongly considered.

I agree with the first part, but I think Shanny & Co. (minus Hasslet) should have one more year. Year 2 of RG3, an offseason to fix the D, and this team could be a 10-6 type team next season.

I have absolutely no problem with what Shanny said. I mean, how many teams that started 3-6 have made it to the Playoffs? This season is pretty much over, time now to evaluate and see who can be a good contributor and who needs to go.

[Painkiller]

The media is not going to buy that. They take everything for face value.

I think Lavarleap pretty much already debunked in so many words that this isn't the case. He's pretty reliable.