Something inherently wrong indeed.
Something inherently wrong indeed.
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This team makes it really, REALLY hard to want to drive 3.5 hours for every home game. I hope they figure this out. It is embarrassing being a Skins fan at times. Hell, I had a 6 year old child in our stadium talking **** to me for 3 hours during the game. He became a Panthers fan 2 days ago. Do you know how annoying / frustrating it is to watch that kind of performance only to have the cackle of an annoying prepubescent child chattering on in your ear for hours? the drive home was quiet and lonely.
The defense is putrid. It cannot get worse. Fire Hasslet today and let Raheem take it over.
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Beating the Eagles won't change anything.
Mike would have to win out to convince me he is the right guy to coach the Skins.
This team plays like losing is it's job.
If we're going to fire Mike Shanahan, and essentially clean house, I want us to do what we've been needing to do. Hire a young, true up and comer coach (not an obscure position coach like Zorn was) but maybe get a guy like Mike McCoy (OC Denver), Greg Roman (OC San Fran), Vic Fangio (DC San Fran) or Perry Fewell. Hell, promote Kyle for goodness sake.
If Shanahan is out of here, I'm personally done with retreads.
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I still think that Mike will get next year. I do see some changes in our defensive coaches. And at this point a full clean house wouldn't be to much to ask for on that side of the ball.
All of that being said, I'm not giving up on the season. We have a QB that can keep us in every game. I am all set on the Brandon Banks on offense experiment though.
I have no more HOPE that things will CHANGE. We should really look into changing our "racist" name from the Redskins, to the Washington Basement Dwellers, because that's our rightful place in the NFC East. Or the Washington Jokes, because that's basically what we are to the rest of the division.
I'm like your friend. I've been a fan since 1976 and this is the worst I've ever felt. I turned the game off after Steve Smith caught the touchdown and had the Broncos-Bengals game on while I read the paper. Then, after I read the paper, I started watching James Bond movies for the rest of the night. I didn't watch anymore football after the 3rd quarter of the Broncos game.
I have no more fight in me. It's not fun anymore. Even when we win, it's heart-wrenching and ugly to watch. I should have washed and waxed my truck yesterday. Per my sig, I give up.
Redskins 2013 Opponents:
Home- Dallas, NY Giants, Philadelphia, Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, Kansas City, San Diego
Away- Dallas, NY Giants, Philadelphia, Green Bay, Minnesota, Atlanta, Denver, Oakland
If ALL we do is beat the Eagles, then yeah, it means little.
But lets say we beat Philly and then play well and lose to the Boys on Thanksgivng. Then lets say we split home games with the Ravens/Giants and split road games with the Browns/Eagles then end the season beating Dallas. That would be 7-9 with a very competitive second half of the season. I could take that and feel good about it.
My hope is that if we can beat Philly it will vault us to a positive finish.
Do I have any faith in that happening? Of course not.
But that is my "realistic" hope/goal at this point and if we do it, the season would likely have met my minimum requirements.
Re: Mike Shanahan's statements
The more I listen/read Mike Shanahan's statements in context I wonder if he attempt (albeit failed attmept) was to set up an alibi against poor play for the rest of the season.
Maybe Mike realizes (once again during his tenure) that this team is not as good as he thought?
The fact of the matter is that if a team cannot beat a 1-6 team at home in a "must win game" then the outlook for the rest of the season is bleak.
If Mike meant anything from his statement (which he might not at all) then we should seen some major line-up changes right?
Then if the team struggles he can say well we struggled because we're trying out players and trying to build for the future.
Judging from how docile the media has been with Mike he probably thought he could toss that out there and they would accept it like the accepted a bunch of his other outlandish statements.
I wouldn't even be completly discouraged if we lose out, but atleast look like a real football team out there on the field. It's truly sickening when you see passes being dropped that should be caught. Defensive scheme that just puts zero pressure on the opposing teams qb. I mean come on man do we need the coach to break out the "football for dummies" guide?
I'm very interested in seeing how Shannahan responds after the bye. Yesterday he looked defeated. Not just during the presser, but watching his reaction on the sidelines after varous plays. He didn't seem emotionally attached, he seemed defeated and apathetic. I dont recall him getting upset with any of the referees decisions that in the past would have resulted in a red faced, neck vein popping tirade toward an official or player. Most bothersome to me is that his mannerisms suggest that he dosn't have any answers as to how to right this ship and may now just be along for the ride.
I hope I'm wrong and that the injuries to key players and experimental play calling given the new QB and running back are the principal factors for the current state of the team. However, I am really leaning toward this being a coaching staff / scheme which has been exposed more and more as the season progresses (trick plays to mask a lack of talent at WR and OL) and finds itself now in a position where they realize that they have no answers going forward. If the offense were making strides each week I could live with our subpar defense, but the offense, once the bright spot of the team just a few short weeks ago has regressed badly.
We must finish the season strong.
We must play better across the board.
We must win some games.
We are who we have.
Unless they give some reason for optimism over the rest of the season............all bets are off.
I have no faith in Shanahan when it comes to "lighting a fire" under his players. He seems so distant and unconnected. I don't there there is anything closely resembling passion and urgency when it comes to this team.
You know why? Cause he has nothing to prove ... he's getting paid, he's counting the days until he can get out of here.
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