How Many Current Redskins Would Start for the Giants?

[zoony]

This is a straightforward question. Including those players listed on IR, how many on our football Team would win a starting job with the New York Giants?

I also realize that this in some respects is not a fair question. For instance, I don't think RGIII would win a starting job over Eli, but I still would take him over Eli if I were building a roster from scratch

However, in most respects I think the question is more than fair.

I originally said 2. But including those on IR, I would say 3. I think Fred Davis, Trent Williams, and Ryan Kerrigan (at OLB) could start for the Giants. I have mixed feelings about Garçon and Morris. I think they could teeter on starting.

What's your number?

[Rufus T Firefly]

I would take Montgomery over Baas, and definitely Polumbus over Locklear. Cofield would start for them, and either of our MLBs are better than Herzlich. Young over Hynoski is at least arguable, as is either of our Gs over Boothe.

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

I will say four. Morris is a close one, but can always use a solid RB.

Kerrigan
F Davis
Morris
Orakpo Healthy**close one given thier front

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

On offense, Trent, Lictensteiger and Polumbus (by default as he's better than what thye have, but not starting material at all) on the line. Young at FB. Morris at RB. Davis at TE.

Defense is more tricky, as they run a 43. But pound for pound, player for player straight up take any two of our linemen over their two DT's. Either MLB. And Kerrigan or Oakpo opposite Kiwanuka.

10 of 22. And I'm probably being a tad generous.

Hail.

[terpskins10]

I don't think it's really correct to say Kerrigan or Orakpo would start for them. Given that we run different defenses, both Kerrigan and Orakpo would be considered DEs in their scheme, and neither of them would start over the guys they currently have. Can't say I can see Kerrigan playing 4-3 OLB at a high level given his coverage deficiencies.

Bennett is also having a very good season, though Davis is probably better.

I'd say Trent, Montgomery, Riley, maybe Fred...and that just may be it.

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

Healthy?

RGIII would beat out Eli as early as year 2. Morris, Davis, Trent, Fletcher because their MLB is bad. At least if healthy, he can beat them out. Honestly one of Hall or Wilson could start at CB, their CBs suck. One of our interior guys might steal a spot. I don't see Rak or Kerrigan starting in that front, but that's not a shame at all. Maybe Rak or Kerrigan can play 4-3 OLB better than Kiwanuka can (yep, Mathias Kiwaknuka was a 4-3 DE who's been starting since 07 as a full time 4-3 OLB - they invested THAT many picks into pass rushers).

I don't think Garcon can beat out Cruz or Nicks.

So maybe 5 or 6 out of 22 starters? Add 7 once RGIII inevitably passes Eli.

[Rufus T Firefly]

I don't think it's really correct to say Kerrigan or Orakpo would start for them. Given that we run different defenses, both Kerrigan and Orakpo would be considered DEs in their scheme, and neither of them would start over the guys they currently have. Can't say I can see Kerrigan playing 4-3 OLB at a high level given his coverage deficiencies.

Either of them would make better 4-3 OLBs than Kiwanuka. And either of them vs. Tuck or Osi at this point is at least debatable.

[nuposse87]

No one defensively outside of a healthy orakpo would start for them. A healthy davis and williams would start. Morris would start over Ahmad...but I'm not sure how he'd fair in their running style.

[Renegade7]

offense

Trent Williams
Garcon -injured
Davis -injured
Morris
Young

I don't know if our line is that much better then their's that I would have our LG, C, and RG starting. Polumbus shouldn't be starting anywhere, let alone New York.

Defense

Kerrigan
Riley
Orakpo - injured

And that's it. I swear, my dad loves Cofield, but what I see is an undersized NT getting moved when he has to be moved and Bowen not getting any consistent pressure. And I love London, but he's done, and New York would know that enough to not have him as the primary MLB on their team when in a 4-3 you have only one MLB, not two.

So considering injuries, that's 5 guys out of 22 that would be starting for the Giants right now, no doubt in my mind.


5 out of 22. Jesus, we suck...

[DogofWar1]

Hmm...tough call.

For starters, Giants are a pretty good team, above average in many of their positions.

The other problem is that they are a 4-3 team, while we're 3-4. Our personnel are different.

I'm inclined to say it's not a fair question on those two grounds, I think it would make more sense to ask this about a very average 3-4 team as opposed to an above average 4-3 team, but I'll bite and try and do it anyway.

On offense, Davis probably beats Bennett, Garcon takes the #3 spot (and the Y when they have 3 WRs, which is often) though I think he could compete with Cruz for the #2. Young would compete heads up and possibly win FB. Trent wins LT easily, Monty would be starter at either C or G.

So, potentially 5 players on offense, and I think others would get to be contributors, like Morris or Helu, who I think could beat out Brown and Wilson.

On defense, I honestly don't know. They have a very solid defense front to back, and again, they're a 4-3 so personnel are different. Would Orakpo be a starter there? Probably not, having to beat out JPP and Tuck. Thing is, the Giants wouldn't keep Orakpo, they'd trade him for picks to a place with a 3-4, or with fewer 4-3 stars.

Again, I think it's a bit unfair to compare us to the Giants due to the lack of parallels.

[gortiz]

I will say four. Morris is a close one, but can always use a solid RB.

Kerrigan
F Davis
Morris
Orakpo Healthy**close one given thier front

I say London ... I mean, are their MLB that much better?

Trent ...

Our kicker so far has been no slouch

Rocca would start.

[Renegade7]

It feels like homerism that we'd try to opt out of this question because they run the 4-3 vs the 3-4. The point is our talent doesn't come close to there's and that's why we suck. Is it a better comparison to use us vs Dallas? I think it'd be worse...

[zoony]

Orakpo I don't think would start. His coverage skills are roughly as good as mine. That rules him out at linebacker. He isn't as good a pass rusher as what they've already got, so that rules him out at de.

Kerrigan has good coverage skills which is who I think he gets the start.

I'm sticking with 3

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

Orakpo I don't think would start. His coverage skills are roughly as good as mine.

Heck, get out there and get "evaluated". Depending on your cost, we may have the cap space.

[s0crates]

I saw the topic and I got to thinking about it and I really don't want to think about it anymore because it is a pretty depressing thought. The answer is not very many.

AlMo could probably take Bradshaw's job. There might be a couple others, maybe Freddy D or Trent Williams, but the number is certainly less than 5.