How Many Current Redskins Would Start for the Giants?

[illone]

6 for me.

Kerrigan and Orakpo on Defense.

Trent Williams is pretty darn good, he'd start for most team including the Gmen.

RG3 would start over Eli. He is WAY more dynamic of a player and makes defense play an entirely different strategy. If you put RG3 on the Gmen they would score 45 a game.

Pierre Garcon would most likely start over Hixon or Randle, or whoever else they have playing on the outside.

Fred Davis

Morris is a toss up, Bradshaw is pretty good.

[DogofWar1]

It feels like homerism that we'd try to opt out of this question because they run the 4-3 vs the 3-4. The point is our talent doesn't come close to there's and that's why we suck. Is it a better comparison to use us vs Dallas? I think it'd be worse...

Nope, it'd be a lot better. Bowen, who left Dallas as a FA, is as good as Coleman or Hatcher. Cofield actually has better stats than Ratliff this year, but I'll refrain from giving him that. Carriker probably would be fighting hard for a spot.

Orakpo beats Spencer at OLB handily I think, and our two ILBs are better than their two. They do win hands down in the secondary, but remember, they spent a bunch of money and draft picks there, getting Carr and Claiborne there.

I think there's 4 definite starters for Dallas; Orakpo, Riley, Fletcher, and Bowen, and I think Carriker plays for the other DE spot heads up. Cofield loses to Ratliff not because Ratliff is playing better this year, he's not, but because of his past play for the Boys.

On offense, Williams is LT again, Griffin has a strong argument over Romo, Davis has a strong argument against a declining Witten, and I think Monty gets a spot somewhere along the interior, and again, Garcon is the #3 on the field in 3 WR sets, which is often, and I think Young beats Vickers. So 6 guys, again, not including RBs who I think would get to contribute.

Another thing with comparing squads in the east is that every single team has a solid 1 and 2 WR, except for us. Nicks/Cruz, Austin/Bryant, and Jackson/Maclin. I think Garcon *can* be mentioned in the same breath as those guys, but he's not quite there yet.

[zoony]

So the question is, does this team lack talent or do they lack "heart" or effort?

And does either option help Shanahan any?

I think the answers to all of those questions are clear. If you take the burgundy blinders off, that is

[MrJL]

Cofield would start for the Giants because Cofield has started for the Giants

[Kostaskins]

The giants love there polish fullback hynaski so young wouldn't start.

[Chump Bailey]

Polumbus is better than Locklear?

Not even close IMO...

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

Polumbus is better than Locklear?

Not even close IMO...

To be fair, both are back-up's at best in an ideal World.

Your not exactly covering yourself in glory with either starting.

Hail.

[MusicCitySkin]

Trent Williams, London Fletcher, and maybe Perry Riley. So, I say two and a half.

I'm not confident that Morris would start over Bradshaw, or if F. Davis would start over Bennett, and I doubt that 'Rak and Kerrigan would get the nod over JPP or Tuck.

[authentic]

Polumbus is better than Locklear?

Not even close IMO...

I don't even think either are good enough for a worthy comparison.

[steve09ru]

So the question is, does this team lack talent or do they lack "heart" or effort?

And does either option help Shanahan any?

I think the answers to all of those questions are clear. If you take the burgundy blinders off, that is

I think talent wise, it's pretty close to 50/50

Skins have no heart (offensively or defensively) - no one looks happy to be out on the field. No one looks ecstatic after big plays - they play with no fire.

there was another thread talking about the differences between our defenses now and in 06,07 - the difference to me is there is in your face leader (fletcher is a great character guy but he doesn't fire the players up like marcus washington use to or how the defense was running off the hits of ST)

If you combined both teams, talent wise I would take:

Trent, Garcon, Davis, Cofield, Bowen, Orakpo, Riley, Fletcher, Kerrigan (it'd be close to include Merriweather and Jackson but we have yet to see them in reg. season action) - and you could even add RG3 and Morris to this list looking in the future a year or so. Monty as well with a little more experience (he hasn't quite had a full season of consistent success and needs more time)

[TheGloryDays]

Morris would start and its not close. I think the Giant's running backs are about as overrated as they come, especially Bradshaw.

[MLSKINS]

To those saying Locklear over Polumbus, until yesterday, I would have said he was having a decent season. I can't say the same for Locklear. I have see the Giants play all but maybe two games this year, Locklear is still the same bum that he was when he was here....

So the question is, does this team lack talent or do they lack "heart" or effort?

And does either option help Shanahan any?

I think the answers to all of those questions are clear. If you take the burgundy blinders off, that is

Honestly, I think we have decent talent. I think it is the coaches that are messing up.

Jim Haslett is running a defense that he barely knows how to run
Kyle is getting to cute with the play-calling

But more importantly, I think Mike Shanahan is letting both get away with it., He needs to take over on offense and he needs to bring in a D-Coordinator in who knows how to run a defense and stop hiring D-Coordinators he can control. It didn't work in Denver and it is not working here.

[J-bomb]

I know fans love him as a person but London fletcher shouldnt even be starting for us let alone giants or boys he is one of worse statistical mlbs this year an if you watch the games he misses way too many tackles and can't cover any TE's....Trent, morris and garcon are the only 3 on O. on D ryan, rak an coefild are the only guys I feel that can start for gmen or boys...

[DC9]

Trent, Monty, Polumbus, Kerrigan

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

Trent Williams, London Fletcher, and maybe Perry Riley. So, I say two and a half.

I'm not confident that Morris would start over Bradshaw, or if F. Davis would start over Bennett, and I doubt that 'Rak and Kerrigan would get the nod over JPP or Tuck.

Love Fletcher's heart, but no way he starts there.