ESPN: NFL admits mistake on DeAngelo Williams TD

[jly0784]

lol @ getting 18 mil in cap space back from a bad call... if thats the case, what do the seahawks get for being screwed over in the super bowl a few years ago? lol

[bradboyd80]

Wasn't a part of the new deal between the refs and the NFL to have extra refs on the sideline to fill in for those performing poorly? That sure would have been nice to have yesterday.

[DM72]

Frankly one of the worst calls I've seen. Not that it had an effect on the outcome of the game, it's just alarming that no member of the crew realized how idiotic the call was before it was too late.

Who knows? Anything can happen between the 17 yd line and the goal line. Int, fumble, sack, missed FG. You never know.

[ejay183]

I am just amazed that the league admitted they were wrong.

[MrJL]

Who knows? Anything can happen between the 17 yd line and the goal line. Int, fumble, sack, missed FG. You never know.

and they apparently lied to our coach about why they were confering

[MrJL]

well, let's see: This week the NFL awarded a TD where none should have been, last week an NFL official got in a player's face enough that the ref is being investigated.

If enough add up.....

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the refs are on their best behavior for the rest of the season.

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Who knows? Anything can happen between the 17 yd line and the goal line. Int, fumble, sack, missed FG. You never know.

and they apparently lied to our coach about why they were confering

[Laxpunk2006]

That wasn't just a "bad call" though. A "bad call" is a missed penalty or the like. This was the referees making **** up on the spot directly in disagreement with the rule (which they said they knew). They ignored what the written rule was and made up something that they thought would be better.

Sound familiar?

A bad call is a bad call is a bad call. Teams have never been compensated for it after the fact and never will.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way because I like you as a poster but you're really grasping here.

[Bang]

Well, I owe someone a dollar.



the explanation Iheard today was that the refs huddled and decided hed have scored anyway.
well, hell, i say we'll beat the Eagles 42-3... so may as well make it real.

the officials responsible for the whistle AND the ruling both need to be fired.

~Bang

[Hitman21ST]

A bad call is a bad call is a bad call. Teams have never been compensated for it after the fact and never will.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way because I like you as a poster but you're really grasping here.

No offense taken, I said that knowing more than likely we wouldn't, but I don't think it's absurd.

This is in the same ballpark as the cap hit "explanation" if you think about it:

Cap hit: The CBA stated in writing that there would be no cap if a new CBA was not agreed on, which it wasn't, and we used it to our advantage. After the fact, the NFL gets together and invented the "spirit of the cap" and we were punished for it.
TD run: The rule states that the play is dead when the whistle blows. We stop playing when the whistle blows. The refs get together and say they "felt that Williams was in the end zone" when he wasn't anywhere near. The "spirit of the TD" if you will.

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Well, I owe someone a dollar.



the explanation Iheard today was that the refs huddled and decided hed have scored anyway.
well, hell, i say we'll beat the Eagles 42-3... so may as well make it real.

the officials responsible for the whistle AND the ruling both need to be fired.

~Bang

That's the exact issue at hand. If the refs "decide" a team should win, this farce of an explanation would allow that.

[Skeets]

I don't usually post, but I'm watching the Iggles and Saints game and the referees are horrible. So many bad calls! I'm so sorry but if I went to work, and made as many mistakes as they do....I would be out of a job. I bet the refs wouldn't make the same mistakes if they could lose their job or if they were fined...I mean if players can get fined for making mistakes then shouldn't refs? I mean they are all over paid anyways.

Back on topic. We deserved to lose that game. I did not want us to win that game. That probably sounds bad, but I don't want the team to think that they can play so horrible and still win. It's not acceptable. We need a new defensive coach. We need a new special teams coach. Shanny can stay, as long as he doesn't keep his coaches because they are his "buddies." The bad call by the ref shouldn't matter. We should be able to win even WITH bad calls. Hail!

[Laron Burgundy]

No offense taken, I said that knowing more than likely we wouldn't, but I don't think it's absurd.

This is in the same ballpark as the cap hit "explanation" if you think about it:

Cap hit: The CBA stated in writing that there would be no cap if a new CBA was not agreed on, which it wasn't, and we used it to our advantage. After the fact, the NFL gets together and invented the "spirit of the cap" and we were punished for it.
TD run: The rule states that the play is dead when the whistle blows. We stop playing when the whistle blows. The refs get together and say they "felt that Williams was in the end zone" when he wasn't anywhere near. The "spirit of the TD" if you will.

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That's the exact issue at hand. If the refs "decide" a team should win, this farce of an explanation would allow that.

Yeah, I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but it certainly does feel like the nfl is screwing our team (when you would think with a young superstar like Griffin they would do everything they could to, I don't know, go out of their way to hurt us). Regardless, Williams probably would have had that td so I don't feel THAT bad, but by rule they should have had it at the 17. If they had to settle for a fg, who knows, we may have not had a failed 4th down at their goal line and just settle for a fg and they may have never gotten the long drive from that momentum shift. Hard to say what the ripple effect would have been.

[ejay183]

lol @ getting 18 mil in cap space back from a bad call... if thats the case, what do the seahawks get for being screwed over in the super bowl a few years ago? lol

A game winning Touchdown that should have been an interception

[NoCalMike]

This was beyond a bad call.

The actual bad call was blowing the whistle on DeAngelo Williams for being out of bounds when he wasn't, however, once the whistle blows it's a dead ball, REGARDLESS.

So the bad call was made worse when it was reversed for basically a reason made up out of thin air on the spot. How in the world can the explanation from the referee be that "He would have scored" when he blew the whistle at the 17 yard line? It makes no sense, and he was obviously just trying to make something up to try and cover the situation up.

[DogofWar1]

Did our defenders slow down after the whistle was called?

On the one hand, it looked like he was going to score, so a mistaken whistle isn't a big deal, but if our guys slowed down then that TD wouldn't have happened either.

Anyways, the NFL screwed up, and possibly screwed us, but that's happened before. I think there was a Tampa game a ways back where they called a TD as having crossed the plane when it clearly hadn't. Nothing actually happened. Refs screw up, the NFL says "yup they did," and then shrugs its shoulders.

As for helping us get our money back, I doubt that it's going to matter, unless Snyder makes a huge stink about it, in addition to all his other grievances. He certainly has no lack of grievances to air.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

Not even mad about it. They would have scored later on in the drive against our swiss cheese defense