ESPN: NFL admits mistake on DeAngelo Williams TD

[Dallsux]

Frankly one of the worst calls I've seen. Not that it had an effect on the outcome of the game, it's just alarming that no member of the crew realized how idiotic the call was before it was too late.

I disagree. It definitely affected the outcome of the game. There's no gaurantee that they score if the refs call that correctly.

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Did our defenders slow down after the whistle was called?

On the one hand, it looked like he was going to score, so a mistaken whistle isn't a big deal, but if our guys slowed down then that TD wouldn't have happened either.

Correct. Riley was there & when he heard the whistle he stopped running. Had he continued on to push Williams out of bounds, it probably would have been an unnecessary roughness penalty.

There was also a hold (if you go back & look at the play) where Williams is getting around the corner & a would-be tackler is being held BLATENTLY who could have tackled Williams before he made any real yardage. He even has his hand in the air looking for a flag. Of course, none came.

---------- Post added November-6th-2012 at 12:59 AM ----------

Well, I owe someone a dollar.

I'll take mine in small bills.

the officials responsible for the whistle AND the ruling both need to be fired.

~Bang

Agreed. I thought part of the whole new agreement with these officials was to be able to hold them accountable for such times as these. Did that not get included? Either way, there is absolutely no reason to allow this kind of thing to happen, period. There is no excuse for allowing officating to affect the outcome of a game for any team. If teams hurt themselves with penalties, that's one thing. But calling TDs that are not, saying that he would have scored anyway...? That sounds like something fans would say, not officials. Inexcusable. Plain & simple.

[CarolinaPride]

It was a bad call. This was a poorly reffed game, all around.


I was jumping up and down, yelling, when they flagged the Panthers for delay of game, despite the fact that a ref was literally standing behind the center, so he couldn't snap the ball.



Horrible officiating across the board in this game.

[GhostofSparta]

I was jumping up and down, yelling, when they flagged the Panthers for delay of game, despite the fact that a ref was literally standing behind the center, so he couldn't snap the ball.

I've seen that gif around, but had to work and couldn't actually watch the game. What the hell was going on there? For the life of me, I can't figure out what he was thinking or trying to accomplish.

[CarolinaPride]

I've seen that gif around, but had to work and couldn't actually watch the game. What the hell was going on there? For the life of me, I can't figure out what he was thinking or trying to accomplish.

Apparently, while the play clock was still running, the ref had the idea to jump behind center, to count how many players the Panthers had on the field.

Some Panther fans are claiming that the ref did it so the Skins had enough time to switch a couple players... but, I don't see it, considering they screwed over both teams to some degree throughout the game.

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I hope it was the same ref that was in this gif.


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[GhostofSparta]

I hope it was the same ref that was in this gif.

I can't see the numbers, so I'm not sure it's the same ref. But I'm going to pretend it was, and say that he clearly suffered a concussion there, and was having flashbacks to his high school QB days later in the game when he got behind center.

[Botched]

I disagree. It definitely affected the outcome of the game. There's no gaurantee that they score if the refs call that correctly.

To be fair, they were playing against the Redskins defense. That's about as close to a guarantee you can get.

[MLSKINS]

To be fair, they were playing against the Redskins defense. That's about as close to a guarantee you can get.

Just like Carolina stopped us on the 2 yard line, we could have stopped them..... But who am I kidding, they would have still scored.

[sempre_victrix]

On TV, they said that the rule is that if the offense substitutes late, the defense has the opportunity to match-up and if it results in a delay, too bad for the offense. (my paraphrasing)

[BornToHail]

This was beyond a bad call.

The actual bad call was blowing the whistle on DeAngelo Williams for being out of bounds when he wasn't, however, once the whistle blows it's a dead ball, REGARDLESS.

Sorry, not the true topic of the thread, but Is this true? Can't fumbles be recovered AFTER the whistle has blown the play dead? I believe even if the whistle blows and someone clearly recovers a fumble, upon review the possession can change, right?

[AzSkinsFan63]

Oh Good! For a minute there I was concerned..

[Binton]

Wtf does the cap penalty have to do with this. The ref who made the golden tate touchdown call admitted he was wrong, what did green bay get out of that?

[G1]

To be fair, they were playing against the Redskins defense. That's about as close to a guarantee you can get.

Sadly you're right.

I think when the whistle blew Williams had already beaten every defender except Riley who stopped but was not guaranteed to catch Williams. Not defending the refs botch up, mind.

[Taylor 36]

Sorry, not the true topic of the thread, but Is this true? Can't fumbles be recovered AFTER the whistle has blown the play dead? I believe even if the whistle blows and someone clearly recovers a fumble, upon review the possession can change, right?

No. If the whistle is blown too early, it doesn't count as a fumble.

[Hitman21ST]

Sadly you're right.

I think when the whistle blew Williams had already beaten every defender except Riley who stopped but was not guaranteed to catch Williams. Not defending the refs botch up, mind.

Doesn't matter. Even if the runner has gotten by everyone and there's no chance of the defense catching him, if the whistle blows, the play is dead.

[Taylor 36]

Doesn't matter. Even if the runner has gotten by everyone and there's no chance of the defense catching him, if the whistle blows, the play is dead.

All that is very true, but the thing that makes it worse in my opinion is that the ref not only blew the whistle, but he stood on the sideline waiving his arms over his head to signal to stop the clock because the runner had stepped out of bounds. Visual and audible stoppage of the play.