ES's Offical 11/6/2012 Election Results Thread (DISCUSS THE RESULTS HERE)

[Madison Redskin]

Why is that?

Because the NRA scared the **** out of its constituents and people are ignant. No major changes to gun laws will be passed for the next two years. Did people forget the GOP controls the House?

[PeterMP]

I am saying that Reps need to actually pay attention to African American priorities to get back to the 75-25 party identification split we have seen as recently as 2004.

Do you mean total minority when you say 75-25 split?

Bush only got 11% of the African American vote in 2004.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pag.../epolls.0.html

Is there any chance enough Republican in the House can come together to get some sort of comprehensive immigration reform passed that isn't everybody that is here now illegally needs to go home and get in the back of the line to come into the country legally?

I listened to talk radio this morning to see what sort of tone they (and their callers) would strike, and they didn't sound like they were ready to move on any real issues. It was a lot of dig in and fight harder.

And that the problem was the Romeny isn't/wasn't a REAL conservative.

Now, I'm not surprised by that, but I don't see how you address minority issues and not lose those people.

[Popeman38]

Can you explain the bolded part? Who is it you think would have held all the areas Romney did and pulled in another 1 or 2% from Obama? Santorum, Gingrich, Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Paul - which of them would have been as appealing to the moderate independent voters? Huntsman, Pawlenty, Trump - seriously, do you see any of them getting over the top?

You know as well as I do that the two major parties could put up Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse and still get 40% of the vote each. The battle is fought for the remainder and Romney looks to me to have the best shot. I think in several ways he fumbled the campaign, could have handled things better. But I don't see any of the others getting as close as he was in the first place.

I didn't mean one of the primary candidates, because I think last night demonstrated Mitt did about as well as could have been expected (minus FL & VA). I was talking about the Rep party as a whole. They lost my vote over the last 8 years. I would vote for a true fiscal conservative that wasn't a neanderthal man on social issues. The Rep party had a chance after the 2004 election to drop the crusties and move to a younger, more energetic, more inclusive model. Instead the country get the barrel of monkeys we saw at the primary. Mitt Romney is 65 years old. Obama is 51. It is MUCH easier to identify with a candidate that is closer to your age than your grandparents age.

So don't take my statement to mean the Reps nominated the wrong guy (from the options presented). My statement is more an indictment of the direction of the party from 2004 - today.

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Do you mean total minority when you say 75-25 split?

Bush only got 11% of the African American vote in 2004.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pag.../epolls.0.html

Is there any chance enough Republican in the House can come together to get some sort of comprehensive immigration reform passed that isn't everybody that is here now illegally needs to go home and get in the back of the line to come into the country legally?

I listened to talk radio this morning to see what sort of tone they (and their callers) would strike, and they didn't sound like they were ready to move on any real issues. It was a lot of dig in and fight harder.

And that the problem was the Romeny isn't/wasn't a REAL conservative.

Now, I'm not surprised by that, but I don't see how you address minority issues and not lose those people.

I didn't say vote, I said party identification. I used those words for a reason. If Mitt Romney wins even 11% of the Aftican American vote, the conversation this morning is different. He likely wins VA with those numbers.

As bad as this sounds, I think Obama has to make the first move toward the Reps, like Clinton did in his second term. We either go that way, or nuclear winter IMHO.

[MattFancy]

Panic buying by gun nuts over Obama establishing another assault weapons ban.

Didn't Romney also want to ban assault weapons? And honestly, what does a normal person need an assault weapon for anyway?

[FanboyOf91]

Didn't Romney also want to ban assault weapons?

As with most Romney positions...

[Popeman38]

Didn't Romney also want to ban assault weapons? And honestly, what does a normal person need an assault weapon for anyway?

And this is where semantics comes into play. What is an assault weapon? We keep hearing AK-47 and M-16/AR-15. That is nice and all, but those weapons already require a Federal permit that takes money and extensive time to get. Fully automatic weapon permits are not just handed out. AR-15 is an M-16 that is semi-automatic. One squeeze, one round. No different than a 30-06, or 22 rifle (I use these rifles for a reason - they fire the same sized round as an AK-47 and M-16). But the impression one gets is that these weapons somehow inflict more damage. They don't. The last time an assault weapon ban was discussed, a semi-automatic pistol that accepted an extended clip (more than 10 rounds) was to be considered an assault weapon.

[visionary]

Democrats win the Senate seat in Montana. (he's an incumbant, but was considered very vunerable apparently)
They have a good chance to win in North Dakota too.

[Fight4RGIII]

Seeing people freak out about Prop 6 in Maryland on my facebook is so disappointing.

[pjfootballer]

Not that the 29 votes will matter, but was Florida settled? I know Obama was in the lead, but everything I pull up on the internet still says undecided.

[Skinz4Life12]

Not that the 29 votes will matter, but was Florida settled? I know Obama was in the lead, but everything I pull up on the internet still says undecided.

Obama is going to win that bad boy. 332 to 206!

[The Evil Genius]

Dems in California have the supermajority now in their legislature.

The GOP will now become officially irrelevant in this state.

Should be an interesting 2-4 years.

[MattFancy]

Seeing people freak out about Prop 6 in Maryland on my facebook is so disappointing.

Indeed it is. I've seen people say they fear for the lives of their children's future because of it. Really?!

[stevemcqueen1]

Not that the 29 votes will matter, but was Florida settled? I know Obama was in the lead, but everything I pull up on the internet still says undecided.

I thought I head Soledad say they stopped counting there.

[skinny21]

I just don't know how the GOP does it, if they go to the center they will lose what is now their base, if they go to their base they lose the center. I would say that this election is showing that America is moving toward being Blue Dog Democrats rather that Moderate Republican.

Who would they lose the Religious Right to, out of curiosity? Seems to me like a candidate could be anti-abortion/gay marriage but claim it outside of the president's purview (or something along those lines) thereby opening themselves to support from swing voters.

[Elessar78]

I'll take the narrow margin in the popular vote that Romney wasn't conservative enough. To me, he would've won this if he just gave a concrete plan instead of sprinkling truths with lies. He had so much time to just come up with a position on tax reform, but when you're not actually being a leader of the party then you have "constituencies" you need to run it by first.

On tax reform: he could never say that he's repealing child tax credits and mortgage interest deductions and student loan deductions and health insurance premiums and child care deductions etc—would've been suicide. But if was a man of his word, then these are the exact (or some of them) that he would've tried to cut. So the guy didn't have a plan other than "I'm not Obama." Pathetic.