Secondary Plans: Who to Cut/Who To Keep/Who would we want to Sign?

[Bishop Hammer]

We don't have luxury first round picks anymore...

Oh cheese and rice the Skins are only missing first rounder for two sodding years. And considering how well RG3 is playing it was a deal, IMO. Unbelivable how folks see how well Griffin is playing and their still griping over two lousy picks. In two years they'll get their first rd drafts back and Griff will still be in the B&G.

The thing that will really hamper talent acquisition is the cap penalty. If it wasn't for that our guys wouldn't be as impacted.

[skinsfan4128]

Oh cheese and rice the Skins are only missing first rounder for two sodding years. And considering how well RG3 is playing it was a deal, IMO. Unbelivable how folks see how well Griffin is playing and their still griping over two lousy picks. In two years they'll get their first rd drafts back and Griff will still be in the B&G.

The thing that will really hamper talent acquisition is the cap penalty. If it wasn't for that our guys wouldn't be as impacted.

Love this statement, Bishop. RG3 was well worth the picks given up and quite possibly more. Truth is, if not for the cap penalty, you can easily imagine what kind of team we would have THIS year. We can make moves (as this organization has proven) that could strengthen this team next season. Get some of our boys back healthy, add a couple of draft picks, and sign a couple of guys; the landscape changes for our D. I, for one, would not be opposed to bringing back Meriweather and Jackson as safeties. Add a couple of young CBs, or a combo of young draft picks and FAs, and we're looking at a different secondary.

At the end of the day and what everyone needs to comprehend is that the cap penalty (and let me echo the whole Go **** Yourself, Mara ) hampered our team's ability to adequately address our needs the way I'm sure Shanny wanted to in the 1st place. That's ok though, we can give a huge **** you, Mara on Monday Night!

[rk3025]

Babin would have to play OLB in our system and he was expensive 4-3 End. Do not believe we can afford him.

[MrJL]

Has anyone noticed DJ Johnson playing? The Skins brought him up to the active roster and he hasn't been inactive, even dressing over Richard Crawford a draft pick.

Has he played on teams or on the defense?

[bch89]

Falcons... They cut Rey Edwards and are on their way to the playoffs... he wouldn't need to change to the 3-4

What? Are you saying the Falcons will pick him up off waivers? This makes more sense than coming to DC.

[moondog]

Love this statement, Bishop. RG3 was well worth the picks given up and quite possibly more. Truth is, if not for the cap penalty, you can easily imagine what kind of team we would have THIS year. We can make moves (as this organization has proven) that could strengthen this team next season. Get some of our boys back healthy, add a couple of draft picks, and sign a couple of guys; the landscape changes for our D. I, for one, would not be opposed to bringing back Meriweather and Jackson as safeties. Add a couple of young CBs, or a combo of young draft picks and FAs, and we're looking at a different secondary.

At the end of the day and what everyone needs to comprehend is that the cap penalty (and let me echo the whole Go **** Yourself, Mara ) hampered our team's ability to adequately address our needs the way I'm sure Shanny wanted to in the 1st place. That's ok though, we can give a huge **** you, Mara on Monday Night!

That makes two of us. Meriweather's impact at safety was undeniable. Jackson is clearly an upgrade over anyone else we have to play at FS and definitely showed well in preseason. I would not be opposed at all to having both back. Jackson's time off will allow his shoulder to fully recover (provided he stays in shape). He and Meriweather would have formed a MUCH better safety tandem this year and secondary in general - we would be a much different defense with them.

Bringing both back next year is a relatively cheap option that already vastly improves our secondary and is not simply a 1-2 year bandaid as they are both still young and can play. It also allows us to focus more on Corners and young D-linemen with our limited resources this offseason.

[ILikeBilly]

...... Jackson's time off will allow his shoulder to fully recover (provided he stays in shape).....

Bringing both back next year is a relatively cheap option.....

A big problem with Jackson is that he is suspended for a FULL year. He will not be able to practice or play until late August from what I understand. That means no training camp and no preseason games. He may be good, but he won't be football ready until week 2, 3 or 4.

[MrJL]

and that assumes he's allowed back in. He wasn't suspended a year, he was suspended indefinitely. A year is just the minimum time before you can apply for readmission.

[MartinC]

and that assumes he's allowed back in. He wasn't suspended a year, he was suspended indefinitely. A year is just the minimum time before you can apply for readmission.

Jackson has a drug problem - I think there is close to zero chance he is playing on any NFL roster next season and certainly not ours. Even if we did want him back - and I doubt we do - as others have sad he would not be eligible for reinstatement until late in preseason. Jackson is not an option for multiple reasons.

[skinny21]

Jackson has a drug problem - I think there is close to zero chance he is playing on any NFL roster next season and certainly not ours. Even if we did want him back - and I doubt we do - as others have sad he would not be eligible for reinstatement until late in preseason. Jackson is not an option for multiple reasons.

I like the potential Jackson offers, but I suppose I'd be a little surprised if we kept him. On the flip side, I'm fine with keeping him as long they act on the assumption he won't be available.

Really stinks that we're in such a degree of the unknown with Bernstine, Merriweather and Jackson.

[SemperFi Skins]

Oh cheese and rice the Skins are only missing first rounder for two sodding years. And considering how well RG3 is playing it was a deal, IMO. Unbelivable how folks see how well Griffin is playing and their still griping over two lousy picks. In two years they'll get their first rd drafts back and Griff will still be in the B&G.

The thing that will really hamper talent acquisition is the cap penalty. If it wasn't for that our guys wouldn't be as impacted.

Its called making a statement... The person I quoted wanted another Sean Taylor and I stated we don't have first round picks to spend on luxury yet... Meaning, if we even did have a first round pick, it would probably not be spent on a Safety. It has nothing to do with RG3 who I wanted on this team before you probably even knew his name...

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What? Are you saying the Falcons will pick him up off waivers? This makes more sense than coming to DC.

it makes sense. They brought in Edwards hoping he would continue on his previous years performance but turns out he was just a product of having played opposite All-America, Mr. World Jared Allen. They should have signed Babin in the first place...

[Wildbunny]

Oh cheese and rice the Skins are only missing first rounder for two sodding years. And considering how well RG3 is playing it was a deal, IMO. Unbelivable how folks see how well Griffin is playing and their still griping over two lousy picks. In two years they'll get their first rd drafts back and Griff will still be in the B&G.

The thing that will really hamper talent acquisition is the cap penalty. If it wasn't for that our guys wouldn't be as impacted.

I was pretty displeased with the 2 1st rounders we gave up for him at the time being. Right now, I'm near to call this a steal if RG3 keeps on playin' at this kind of level.

And finally, with the way we are playing, next year 1st pick should be somewhere near 16/20 and in 2014 it should be between 24-32 if everything goes well. So basically, yeah, that's doesn't hurt so much since we're not gonna pick in the Top 10. There' won't be much difference between 1st and 2nd round players, and we'll still be able to make some good picks. Especially at FS or NT, positions of need that aren't really taken in the First round.

Having a 1st round in 2015 might as well be the 32nd pick, which is neaarly a 2nd round... lol

[wholee]

All of those that wants to cut Hall are tripping! He's 28 freaking years old. True, he may make more money than I think he's worth so restructure his contract. Don't overlook the fact that Josh Wilson has been torched this year. Folks don't like D. Hall for personal reasons and yes he has that attitude but are you seriously thinking we are better off without him? HTTR!

[Saqs]

All of those that wants to cut Hall are tripping! He's 28 freaking years old. True, he may make more money than I think he's worth so restructure his contract. Don't overlook the fact that Josh Wilson has been torched this year. Folks don't like D. Hall for personal reasons and yes he has that attitude but are you seriously thinking we are better off without him? HTTR!

I agree. Cutting Dhall is not an option IMO unless you are getting an upgrade at that position for which you will most likely have to pay similar or more money. I do hope he agrees to restructure for the sake of the team.

[Skins199021]

getting an upgrade overall hall isn't that hard though, he is pretty crappy in coverage, and you are smoking more than T-Jax if you think he is even worth half the money he owed over the next 2 seasons.