Election 2012- Post Mortem

[RVAbrendan]

That's not what I said and you know it.

The black vote was not as high during past democratic nominees as they are now for a black one.

Should we just tell them NOT to vote?

[brandymac27]

That's not what I said and you know it.

The black vote was not as high during past democratic nominees as they are now for a black one.

Just out of curiosity....what do you think the reasons for this are?

[KAOSkins]

Just out of curiosity....what do you think the reasons for this are?

Good question. I might add what he thinks we should do about this supposed racism.

[Burgold]

Can't answer for him, but I think a big part of it is that the GOP's suppression efforts backfired. The Republicans were way too obvious in trying to reduce voter turnout even more or less trumpeting that their lawa would kill the dems.

Well, I think that stirred people up. Some people, maybe a lot of people, who wouldn't vote because they felt dispirited decided to vote because someone was suddenly attacking their right to.

[skinsgirl26]

I hate the way Republicans campaign. I just don't understand it. They need serious PR help...I'll be there in January, guys, do not fret.

Also, why is there a stupid rumor that absentee ballots are not counted unless the race is close? I heard that from like 10 people last night and checked it out on the MD State Board of Elections website and all those people were wrong. I would have been pissed. My vote would not have changed any of the results, but I would be pissed even if I hadn't counted for the losing side....

[DjTj]

Is it okay for me to call the blacks who vote for Obama racist?

There is no courting the blacks away from Obama, most voted because he was black. Yes, you will disagree of course, but you know deep down I am right.

They are just as racist as Mormons who drove record turnout in Utah yesterday.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politic...-utah.html.csp

I don't think it is racist to have pride in one of your own, and to believe that he is more likely to understand you and share your values. Blacks turned out in large numbers for Obama. Mormons turned out in large numbers for Romney. It is part of human nature to connect with and support those that share your background. Voting against someone for their race is racist, but voting for someone because their race or religion represents a shared heritage is perfectly reasonable.

[Kosher Ham]

That's not what I said and you know it.

The black vote was not as high during past democratic nominees as they are now for a black one.

Nor was the hispanic vote from what I hear. Considering how many are Catholic...

I love how you are trying to call the blacks racist in this instance. Mainly because it was shown that Romney needed over 75% of the white vote to win. He isn't getting those either.
Have you ever looked at the racial percentages in this Country ?
Perhpas you should take a close look at the younger white votes, and the female votes. That should tell you all you need to know about the election.

[alexey]

I agree with Larry in that even though there are some similarities between both parties, there are also important differences between them.

They use different scare tactics, for example. Democrats scare people with failing social safety nets and environmental problems. GOP scares people with socialism, communism, and totalitarianism.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLoqti0lzAw&t=3m47s

[Kosher Ham]

http://s3.sidereel.com/episodes/1149...red/179559.jpg

Okay that's funny.

I feel like she might be a crazy cat lady.

Wow.

[SnyderShrugged]

So wait, Ron Paul libertarians are going to vote for a warmongering neo-con who wants to bomb Iran, opposes drug legalization, is far right on most social issues, and is presumably pro-Fed? Just to beat Obama?

You'd be lucky to get 5-10% of Ron Paul voters into the fold unless Romney publicly ripped up the GOP platform and replaced it with Paul's.

You assume too much. There are thousands of pragmatic Paul supporters who understand the value of meeting in the middle on some things. Yes, some platform additions/changes would have been expected, but they didnt have to be wholesale, they could have been steps in the right direction at least and still gained some votes.

Are you a Paul supporter?

[greenspandan]

They need to change because the demographics are rapidly shifting against them. They are getting destroyed by the minority vote and the majority of the younger generation has voted for the Democrats in the past 3 Presidential elections.

particularly if the GOP continues to insist that minorities only vote for Democrats because they are lazy and looking for a handout. it's insulting and racist and not making them any friends.

[Mad Mike]

I haven't felt this sence of impending doom since The Peanut Farmer was elected, My small business has struggled to provide health care & can't afford Osama Care. After 11.5 years I'll probably have to relocate & seek employment else where I don't look forward to 12/21/12 God help us all

Do you have under 50 employees? Then you dont have to "afford" anything.

Dear god, the level of mis-information from the right is just insane.

http://www.healthcare.gov/news/facts...-business.html

Top Things to Know for Small Businesses

If you have up to 25 employees, pay average annual wages below $50,000, and provide health insurance, you may qualify for a small business tax credit of up to 35% (up to 25% for non-profits) to offset the cost of your insurance. This will bring down the cost of providing insurance.

Under the health care law, employer-based plans that provide health insurance to retirees ages 55-64 can now get financial help through the Early Retiree Reinsurance Program. This program is designed to lower the cost of premiums for all employees and reduce employer health costs.

Starting in 2014, the small business tax credit goes up to 50% (up to 35% for non-profits) for qualifying businesses. This will make the cost of providing insurance even lower.

In 2014, small businesses with generally fewer than 100 employees can shop in an Affordable Insurance Exchange, which gives you power similar to what large businesses have to get better choices and lower prices. An Exchange is a new marketplace where individuals and small businesses can buy affordable health benefit plans.

Exchanges will offer a choice of plans that meet certain benefits and cost standards. Starting in 2014, members of Congress will be getting their health care insurance through Exchanges, and you will be able to buy your insurance through Exchanges, too.

Employers with fewer than 50 employees are exempt from new employer responsibility policies. They don’t have to pay an assessment if their employees get tax credits through an Exchange.

Oh, and "Osama" care? What are you, 12 years old?

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

You assume too much. There are thousands of pragmatic Paul supporters who understand the value of meeting in the middle on some things. Yes, some platform additions/changes would have been expected, but they didnt have to be wholesale, they could have been steps in the right direction at least and still gained some votes.

Are you a Paul supporter?

Used to be when I was younger, but I realized that libertarianism is a historically bad governing philosophy for the vast majority of people. But I know what libertarians, particularly hardcore libertarians, believe and they would not get behind Romney. Not in enough numbers to swing the election. Obama won Ohio by about 300,000 votes. Are you telling me there are 300,000 Ron Paul supporters or sympathizers in Ohio that would have swung it to Romney? Or in Nevada? Or in New Mexico?

I think the only chance they could pull it off is if the GOP adopted the Green Party's foreign policy and ran far to the "left" to Obama on war and civil liberties.

[FanboyOf91]

Thank God we get to avoid Californication for two more years.