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    The Republicans lost the "war on women" debate by being stupid, in particular 2 Senate candidates.

    R's need to do the following when asked about it

    "I am pro life and against abortion except in the cases of rape, incest and life of mother"

    Thats it. Never mention it again. Repeat that line over and over.

    And when you get in office, don't even address the issue. Go on to other more important things. Don't start passing "personhood" laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrabR View Post
    and no one is forcing you get to a abortion

    If you are a man like myself then we have no business in this argument as it a womans body. It amazes me at the amount of laws passed by old white men intended to govern a womans body

    In the end noone is for really for a abortion,but some for whatever reason need one. Bill Clinton said it best Safe,rare and legal

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    If you are pro life how many unwanted special needs children have you adopted ?
    So a woman should be able to terminate her pregnancy right up to the birth of the baby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrabR View Post
    and no one is forcing you get to a abortion

    If you are a man like myself then we have no business in this argument as it a womans body. It amazes me at the amount of laws passed by old white men intended to govern a womans body

    In the end noone is for really for a abortion,but some for whatever reason need one. Bill Clinton said it best Safe,rare and legal

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    If you are pro life how many unwanted special needs children have you adopted ?
    Can it with the woman's body argument. That argument would be valid if we were talking about women being forced into procedures against their will that involved her body only. Once a baby is involved, you have two bodies, not just one. That is why murderers are charged twice when they kill a pregnant woman. They get charged for what they did to the woman and baby. See Scott Peterson. You can play with the lingo all you want in regards to "pro-choice" or "woman's right to choose" to make it sound more acceptable. I won't.

    In response to your "how many kids have I adopted", it's not my responsibility to raise some dimwit's kid. If some idiot doesn't know how to wear a rubber or insist their partner wear one, it's on them. If a couple wanting a kid finds out theirs will be special need, they should do what is right, like Palin, and raise their special needs kid. Not kill it.

    I really don't care anymore. All of you on the left can have your way. Go ahead and just fund every damn thing. Hell, maybe the Fed will print so much money, they can give us all a million dollars.

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    I see against birth control, against abortion, against adoption, against supporting unwanted kids... At least you're consistent.

    I would think if you truly thought every life sacred you want to protect that life even after birth. Did Jesus advocate that you shouldn't care for the least among us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan View Post
    . Don't start passing "personhood" laws.
    The POTUS used to not be a person here....some things are worth recognizing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgold View Post
    I see against birth control, against abortion, against adoption, against supporting unwanted kids... At least you're consistent.

    I would think if you truly thought every life sacred you want to protect that life even after birth. Did Jesus advocate that you shouldn't care for the least among us?
    At least HE is not advocating for the right to kill them, like some people consistently do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgold View Post
    I see against birth control, against abortion, against adoption, against supporting unwanted kids... At least you're consistent.

    I would think if you truly thought every life sacred you want to protect that life even after birth. Did Jesus advocate that you shouldn't care for the least among us?
    Are you referring to me? Where did I say I was against birth control? I even said where you could buy it from for $9 a month. Yes, I am against abortion. I never said I was against adoption. I never said I'm against supporting kids. Kids should be supported by the parents or those who want to be adoptive parents. The only thing that's silly is your comment, which really didn't deserve a response, but you got one anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexey View Post
    Free access to birth control should be a universal human right. This will solve a number of problems including hunger and poverty around the world.


    Too bad some religions oppose birth control and preach against it. I think that is highly immoral. It causes incalculable harm.
    Free? How is it free?

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    Free access to birth control should be a universal human right. This will solve a number of problems including hunger and poverty around the world.


    Too bad some religions oppose birth control and preach against it. I think that is highly immoral. It causes incalculable harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexey View Post
    Free access to birth control should be a universal human right. This will solve a number of problems including hunger and poverty around the world.


    Too bad some religions oppose birth control and preach against it. I think that is highly immoral. It causes incalculable harm.
    Free? How is it free? How will it be free?

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    why not free access to food and money instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Paint View Post
    Free? How is it free? How will it be free?
    Developed countries should pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twa View Post
    why not free access to food and money instead?
    You can never provide enough food and money if people keep reproducing like animals.

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    That's it for the "typical abortion segment" of this thread. It's not to become an ongoing tangent. How/why the GOP does or doesn't adjust it's stances on that or any issue is fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexey View Post
    Developed countries should pay for it.

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    You can never provide enough food and money if people keep reproducing like animals.
    Developed countries should pay for it? I thought is was for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Paint View Post
    Developed countries should pay for it? I thought is was for free.
    Free to women.

    Nothing is free and you know it. I am talking about solving problems. You seem to suggest outlawing problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo View Post
    That's it for the "typical abortion segment" of this thread. It's not to become an ongoing tangent. How/why the GOP does or doesn't adjust it's stances on that or any issue is fine.
    I do not think the GOP will change its position on this because it is a faith based position.

    Same can be said about many other GOP positions, including those on the economy.

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    I think everything should be free. Then women will have access to everything.

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