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    If the GOP sticks with the mantra of nominating establishment Guys and Gals, they're not gonna win many elections. I say this and i'm a conservative voter..

    PS. with morons like Mourdock (R) Indiana on the ballot, winning elections is gonna be impossible..
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    Default Re: Kilmer17's roadmap to fix the GOP

    Some good points in here.

    But is this really a roadmap to fix the GOP? Seem more like the planning stages of creating an entirely new political party.

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    I HIGHLY doubt we see such drastic changes so quickly. Maybe the GOP 12-16 years from now.

    Based on what I'm hearing/reading on social media networks, other websites and news channels, the right is already blaming Romney and saying he wasn't conservative enough. What's stopping them from briefly transitioning into a period of more far right ideology?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckus View Post
    Some good points in here.

    But is this really a roadmap to fix the GOP? Seem more like the planning stages of creating an entirely new political party.
    Think of it as similar to what the Dems did from 1980- 1988.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stadium-Armory View Post
    Chris Christie would have won this election if he had run.
    Disagree. As soon as people hear that he was Scott Walker tough on gov't unions, the liberal lovefest with Christie over the last week would have been over

    That and he is fat. We don't elect fat President's.
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    Chris Christie would have won this election if he had run.

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    I think it's simple. Move to be more socially liberal while maintaining their fiscal conservative agenda.

    Continuing down the socially conservative path is what is destroying them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stadium-Armory View Post
    Chris Christie would have won this election if he had run.
    Disagree. As soon as people hear that he was Scott Walker tough on gov't unions, the liberal lovefest with Christie over the last week would have been over

    That and he is fat. We don't elect fat President's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbear View Post
    Kilmer, I would Vote R in a NY minute if their platform matched what you posted.
    100% agreed with this. The GOP needs to step up and modernize their platform to basically what Kilmer described and they would have my vote all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan View Post
    Disagree. As soon as people hear that he was Scott Walker tough on gov't unions, the liberal lovefest with Christie over the last week would have been over

    That and he is fat. We don't elect fat President's.
    William Jefferson Clinton would like a word with you.

    In fact, legend has it is that Clinton messed around with Monica because Hillary tried to get him to slim down (even replacing the White House chef) while Monica was more easy (in more ways than one) on him.

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    I think many in the middle are looking for someone who is fiscally conservative, but lacks the 'crazy' or religious fundamentalism. Christie seems to fit that bill. I don't care if he's fat.

    Add: I wouldn't have voted for him, but I think he would appeal to more in the middle that Mittens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stadium-Armory View Post
    I think many in the middle are looking for someone who is fiscally conservative, but lacks the 'crazy' or religious fundamentalism. Christie seems to fit that bill. I don't care if he's fat.

    Add: I wouldn't have voted for him, but I think he would appeal to more in the middle that Mittens.
    The question with Christie right now is how much of the positive glow is about Sandy and bipartisanship. It could be a bit of the Guiliani effect. That, and I think people are honestly sick of the partisanship. They want better.

    Mind you, I heard whispers that people wanted Christie to run for President this year, but didn't think he could make it... so, I'm not sure what I'm saying is right.

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    Not backing Bowles-Simpson was a huge strategic error by the Republicans. When a bi-partisan, independent committee says you're 90% right, you have to take it and run. Instead they push the Ryan budget plan, which was easily dismissed by Democrats as a ideological document. Democrats would have been neutered had they pushed Bowles-Simpson.
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    I think Christie would be an interesting choice. But, I do agree Burgold on the Gulliani effect. I think the GOP will win in 2016 because I don't think the Dems will have a great candidate then. Could be wrong, but the GOP seems to have Christie and Rubio waiting in the wings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLockesGhost View Post
    Not backing Bowles-Simpson was a huge strategic error by the Republicans. When a bi-partisan, independent committee says you're 90% right, you have to take it and run. Instead they push the Ryan budget plan, which was easily dismissed by Democrats as a ideological document. Democrats would have been neutered had they pushed Bowles-Simpson.
    Agreed. This made it seem like they were more interested in tanking the economy to (try and) make the Democrats and the President look bad. It might be good for them to shed that aura, and grow up. Worry less about doing whatever you can to oppose the Democrats and be an adult and you'll probably get more respect from the middle.

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