What is going to happen in Washington and Colorado with the legalization of marijuana?

[RVAbrendan]

what is big pharma's main gripe with legalization?

Sleep aid, nausea, general pain medication would take a hit I'm betting...

[Special K]

Colorado is already a hotbed, a lot of the weed around here is shipped from that state. This will be like firework smuggling on a much grander scale. Colorado will be the heart, the interstates will be the arteries. Weed is relatively easy to find around here, but you always run in to those days where everyone seems to be laying low/dry. This will obviously make weed even easier to get. Colorado is going to be 'the China of the US', gobbling up the country's money.

Yeah, I was talking with our vice narc officers today and most of the marijuana they confiscate off the street (from people without the MMJ cards) is medical-grade marijuana. The "medical" aspect of the MJ trade is a joke and it's enabled MJ to infiltrate everything. All of us who work with the industry are well aware of that fact....it's a mess.

It will be very interesting to see how this proposition plays out here in Colorado. It might have to go back to the legislature for an overhaul because it was worded so vaguely, no specifics about taxes, enforcement structure, and a host of other legal issues. So it will be very interesting to watch how politicians in this state deal with it, considering legalizing MJ has little to no support amongst law enforcement, CO legislators, and Gov. Hickenlooper himself.

Another thing we discussed at our coalition meeting today is the role big tobacco is going to play in this sector. Right now, they're just waiting in the wings seeing how this is going to play out. But the politicians and narc officers I've talked to fully expect, once the proposition is ironed out, big tobacco to collaborate with the MJ industry in production and marketing. There's even discussion that there is the potential for the tobacco industry to carve out a little niche in this sector by adding things like nicotine or other substances that could hook more customers for lifetime usage (kind of like how the drug cartels are lacing the MJ with heroin in some cases to create a much stronger dependency on the stuff).

[Kosher Ham]

K, come visit and bring some samples. I don't smoke...but for you I will make an exception. I think you might need a smoke.

:siily: You know I love you.

[Special K]

K, come visit and bring some samples. I don't smoke...but for you I will make an exception. I think you might need a smoke.

:siily: You know I love you.

Never smoked before, but after the past cluster**** year I've had here in CO, this isn't a half baked idea
/kidding

Speaking of visit, I actually was almost in your state today. FEMA tried to deploy me out last night...but I figured since I've already started the chain reaction of events necessary for my relocation back to CA in a month, this wouldn't be the best time for a deployment. NEXT time though!

[Kosher Ham]

Sounds good. One of these days.
I am thinking about taking a vacation out to LA, SF, and SD this spring. So,maybe we can make it happen. I'll buy the wine.

[Larry]

It will be very interesting to see how this proposition plays out here in Colorado. It might have to go back to the legislature for an overhaul because it was worded so vaguely, no specifics about taxes, enforcement structure, and a host of other legal issues. So it will be very interesting to watch how politicians in this state deal with it, considering legalizing MJ has little to no support amongst law enforcement, CO legislators, and Gov. Hickenlooper himself.

They could just do what the legislature does, here in Florida.

Ignore the Constitution, and the voters, and just don't implement it.

Another thing we discussed at our coalition meeting today is the role big tobacco is going to play in this sector. Right now, they're just waiting in the wings seeing how this is going to play out. But the politicians and narc officers I've talked to fully expect, once the proposition is ironed out, big tobacco to collaborate with the MJ industry in production and marketing. There's even discussion that there is the potential for the tobacco industry to carve out a little niche in this sector by adding things like nicotine or other substances that could hook more customers for lifetime usage (kind of like how the drug cartels are lacing the MJ with heroin in some cases to create a much stronger dependency on the stuff).

No clue about the "adding things to make it addictive" theory.

But, yeah, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Big Tobacco wasn't looking into getting into the market. (Although they might fail. They wouldn't have the monopolies they have with tobacco.)

[Special K]

They could just do what the legislature does, here in Florida.

Ignore the Constitution, and the voters, and just don't implement it.

Nah, Hickenlooper already said the state is going to comply with the wishes of the voters.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Another thing we discussed at our coalition meeting today is the role big tobacco is going to play in this sector. Right now, they're just waiting in the wings seeing how this is going to play out. But the politicians and narc officers I've talked to fully expect, once the proposition is ironed out, big tobacco to collaborate with the MJ industry in production and marketing. There's even discussion that there is the potential for the tobacco industry to carve out a little niche in this sector by adding things like nicotine or other substances that could hook more customers for lifetime usage (kind of like how the drug cartels are lacing the MJ with heroin in some cases to create a much stronger dependency on the stuff).

Lacing it with heroin?

Really?



Please, you have to be kidding me. Its scare mongering.

Heroin?

Sadly I know all too well about heroin and its dangerous impact. To state that weed is being laced with H is a joke

[GoSkins561]

Suppose Peyton Manning or any other Donkey smokes a joint, will he get in trouble with the NFL?

[Larry]

Suppose Peyton Manning or any other Donkey smokes a joint, will he get in trouble with the NFL?

Depends on your opinion on whether the NFL actually cares about that stuff, right now.

(Yes, IMO, they can punish them. Just because something is legal, doesn't mean the NFL has to allow it. But the impression I get is that the NFL's drug policies really depend on Who You Are, already.)

[Special K]

Lacing it with heroin?

Really?



Please, you have to be kidding me. Its scare mongering.

Heroin?

Sadly I know all too well about heroin and its dangerous impact. To state that weed is being laced with H is a joke

I'm sorry you've had to experience heroin's impact on whoever was in your life. I have too.

That being said, you're wrong. It is an actual fact, not fear mongering. I don't know exactly why you are laughing at that ... especially considering you said you've experienced how it impacts people's lives. Narc officers whom I collaborate with in my tobacco enforcement program have told me some of the MJ they confiscate in raids are, in fact, laced. In fact, we just recently had a tobacco/MMJ coalition meeting and this was brought up again by the officers in attendance. No one is saying that this is the case in all MJ raids, it's in the minority. But yes, that is factual.

[Major Harris]

I have been around it a lot and I have never ever heard of that in reality. I do remember that being taught in health classes and in DARE assemblies.

[Special K]

I have been around it a lot and I have never ever heard of that.

Well, that was picked up when police confiscated MJ from 4 kids at one of our local high schools (not going to put the name of the school on this forum).

Again, it's not common, no one is saying it is.

Pretty sure the officers were not lying to me...

But hey everyone can choose to believe what they want to believe and laugh about it. I don't know what to say. I'm very much entrenched in this sector of public health and enforcement and just relaying stuff from my own personal experience in this field. But, I suspect no matter what anyone in this line of work says, people won't believe it until they can see it...

[Major Harris]

Well, that was picked up when police confiscated MJ from 4 kids at one of our local high schools (not going to put the name of the school on this forum).

Again, it's not common, no one is saying it is.

Pretty sure the officers were not lying to me...

But hey everyone can choose to believe what they want to believe and laugh about it. I don't know what to say. I'm very much entrenched in this sector of public health and enforcement and just relaying stuff from my own personal experience in this field. But, I suspect no matter what anyone in this line of work says, people won't believe it until they can see it...

Whoa, I never said I don't believe you, or that anyone is lying to you. And I didn't laugh you know I respect you more than that.

And it's been a long time so maybe things have changed I don't know.

[Special K]

Whoa, I never said I don't believe you, or that anyone is lying to you. And I didn't laugh you know I respect you more than that.

And it's been a long time so maybe things have changed I don't know.

Sorry, that wasn't really directed at you, I know you weren't laughing.

I was just annoyed from a previous post where SHF was laughing. Just a little annoying when people who don't deal with this and other substance abuse as their career, laugh at anything they don't want to believe...even if the info is coming from somone who deals with this stuff on a fairly regular basis in a state where the MMJ trade is completely out of control.

Laced marijuana definitely isn't the norm (what's confiscated from users is typically medical grade marijuana...even if the person doesn't have an MMJ card), but yeah, cartels shipping their product up the i-25 corridor have been known to lace MJ with all sorts of crap from PCP, to ketamine, embalming fluid, etc.