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    Default Re: Haslett says it's not his fault and the players suck..

    Quote Originally Posted by NLC1054 View Post
    Haslett was sure in a hurry to sign that check to do it though.

    Look, Shanny hiring Haslett was a mistake. I think that's become painfully obvious now. There were some better options available and for whatever reason, we just didn't go after them. Shanny took a year off and evaluated how the league was changing and decided a 3-4 defense was the way to go, and he found a guy who had experience running it and give him a shot to get back into the leage.

    We can argue over the hiring and whether or not Shanny "forced" Haslett to run the 3-4 (and I don't think Shanny forced Haslett to do anything since he told Haslett when he was hired what he wanted to run so Haslett was clearly fine with it when he signed his contract), but the dude has had three years in this system. Three. And he still seems clueless about what he's doing. How is that possible from a man that has damn near two decades of experience in the NFL, that he is so baffled by the concepts of the 3-4.

    He wasn't even that good a 4-3 coach to begin with.

    If you want to hit Mike on making a bad coaching hire, then fine. But Haslett signed that check to do a job, and he's had a lot of time to do it, and he's had more money and draft picks put into his side of the ball than Kyle has had on his, and the defense is this bad.
    Shanahan is the head coach. It's his job to get the best coaches for their respectable jobs and picking coaches who will suceed in carrying out what his vision is. If he picked Haslett and told him to do a certain defense when he knew for fact Haslett was not happy with doing that defense that's on Shanahan. Like Haslett is going to turn down a paycheck. Zorn was over his head too but who is gonna turn down the opportunity? If Shanahan wanted a 3-4 he should have found a pure 3-4 guy. Not someone who could potentially run one but seemly didn't want to.

    It's Shanahan's job to put his coaches in a position to succeed and that also means finding the right ones that have his vision. This is no different than coordinators having the job of putting players in position to succeed.

    No one is going to argue the amount of time Haslett has gotten or the amount of picks but Shanahan picked the guy and if he picked him knowing he didn't share his vision on defense it's Shanahan's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NLC1054 View Post
    If you want to hit Mike on making a bad coaching hire, then fine. But Haslett signed that check to do a job, and he's had a lot of time to do it, and he's had more money and draft picks put into his side of the ball than Kyle has had on his, and the defense is this bad.
    He has?
    Trent Williams 1st Rd pick
    Robert Griffin 1, 1, 1, 2
    McNabb 2, 4
    Brown 3
    Helu 4
    Hankerson 3
    Royster 6
    Paul 5
    Robinson 6
    Hurt 7
    Liberius 3
    cook 7
    austin 7
    capers 7
    dennis morris 6
    cousins 4
    Gettis 5
    Compton 6
    Pierre Garcon 5 years 42 mil
    Chris Chester 5 year 20 mil
    Morgan 2 year 20 mil


    Please show me the list of defensive players that has more invested in it than this list. please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahons21 View Post
    He has?
    Trent Williams 1st Rd pick
    Robert Griffin 1, 1, 1, 2
    McNabb 2, 4
    Brown 3
    Helu 4
    Hankerson 3
    Royster 6
    Paul 5
    Robinson 6
    Hurt 7
    Liberius 3
    cook 7
    austin 7
    capers 7
    dennis morris 6
    cousins 4
    Gettis 5
    Compton 6
    Pierre Garcon 5 years 42 mil
    Chris Chester 5 year 20 mil
    Morgan 2 year 20 mil


    Please show me the list of defensive players that has more invested in it than this list. please.
    A lot of those guys aren't really "investments." I mean Dennis Morris and Terrence Austin?

    On D we have spent more money. Bowen, Cofield, Carriker, Fletcher, and Wilson were all FAs of some significance. Kerrigan was a 1st, Jenkins was a 2nd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhead36 View Post
    A lot of those guys aren't really "investments." I mean Dennis Morris and Terrence Austin?

    On D we have spent more money. Bowen, Cofield, Carriker, Fletcher, and Wilson were all FAs of some significance. Kerrigan was a 1st, Jenkins was a 2nd.
    there's more money and investments in those contracts than McNabb who required both draft picks and money? As well as Brown? I think your numbers may be off, especially after your sprinkle in Garcon, Morgan, and this year.

    Josh WIslon 13.5
    Carricker 20
    Cofield 36
    Fletcher 10
    Bowen 27.5

    Brown 20
    McNabb
    Garcon 42
    Morgan 20
    Chester 20

    I'd say we can count at least 10 mil for mcNabb and that makes it roughyl even.
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