Mike Shanahan.. Extension or move on, what would you do ?

[Lavarleap56]

I would neither extend or fire. He's got two years left on his contract and has done little to earn an extension. Fire Haslett and Danny Smith. Get some better defensive and special teams play. Keep Kyle and Mike around on thier original contracts and let's see if they can prove their worth.

Kyles deal is up in 7 games..

[illone]

I read the other day that Shanny has a worse record than Spurrier or Zorn.

That's pretty damning information and any talk of extension should be hushed immediately.

It's tough to argue that the Skins are in better shape than they were when Mike took over the team. Some moves have been good (RG3), but we basically wasted a year with McNabb and another year with Rex, years that could have been used to bolster the defense (d what?).

[Burgold]

Kyles deal is up in 7 games..

Hmmm... that makes it tougher. If ya keep Mike I would try to extend Kyle. I do like the offense he's designed and called. Imagine the last two games with fifteen more catches instead of drops. Sigh.

[DieselPwr44]

NM...useless to state it here.

Just fire up the torches and continue burning........

[KingGibbs]

NM...useless to state it here.

Just fire up the torches and continue burning........

Instead of burning those in this thread that are just merely discussing the state of the team under Shanny's guidance and whether or not to give him an extension? Why don't you grace us with good reason to give him an extension other than "stability."

[Lavarleap56]

First you have to look at what Shanahan started with. For the most part he had to clean house. Then the building started. We now have a top QB, good RB's, one top WR along with Moss. This off season he will work on the lines. He will also cut Haslett. Don't see why we picked him up in the first place. There are a lot of good DC out there. We were only an 8-8 team at best this season. I just can't understand what most of you thought was going to happen this year? Have a beer and take life easy We have a lot of players injured. In the next two years you will all be happy again. I just hope at 78 i'm around to see it.

In the history of the NFL 1 coach has took longer than 3 years to win, Bill Belichick. We don't know how the Belichick would have ended in Cleveland since ownership dropped the " moving to Baltimore" bomb during the season. Every coach I could find has turned their program around by year 3 tho regardless of how bad the previous regime was. Vinny was bad and I have been on the " Shanny had a huge mess to clean up" bus as well, think 3rd year is enough time to be out of the Vinny era.

Losing games was expected, how they are losing is what is troubling.

[hail2skins]

My answer would be that this decision is better deferred to the latter half of the 2013 season, allowing Snyder & co. a greater sense if the team is headed in the right direction. Frankly, it's not clear to me that Shanahan would actually want a second contract of any length, because he'd be 63 as it started. (As a reminder Gibbs II started when he was almost 64.) If so, I suspect it might be a contract with time-tables for transitioning responsibilities to his heir apparent(s).

Agreed. I'm not sure how Coughlin's contracts have been structured with the Giants, but he was the same age in 2004 when he joined NY as Mike was in 2010 when he came here, and now Tom is in his ninth season. Don't think its unreasonable to have Shanny stay here that long as well, as long as his performance is up to snuff. As of now, he has a lot of catching up to do.

[MartinC]

Kyles deal is up in 7 games..

Hard to see Kyle not being extended though. No?

As for Mike - totally depends in my mind on how next season goes. If its not at least 9 wins then I think its time to move on ..

[SWFLSkins]

Extension, new D coordinator immediately.

Damn that was quick lol

To quick, IMO. Year to year next year and a New D coordinator.

[Rodriggo]

As long as this team has a legitimate GM to buffer Snyder from destroying the team it doesn't matter who the coach is. Bring in a talented, hungry, players coach...they'll be ok. They have an elite QB, only a moron would **** that up.

[DieselPwr44]

In the history of the NFL 1 coach has took longer than 3 years to win, .

Chuck Noll

1969: 1-13
1970: 5-9
1971: 6-8

And he drafted his franchise Qb in 1970 and it still took him 2 years to start winning.

Once again, Redskins fans claim they have patience and could sit through a rebuild. That notion is extremely laughable.

[Rodriggo]

Chuck Noll

1969: 1-13
1970: 5-9
1971: 6-8

And he drafted his franchise Qb in 1970 and it still took him 2 years to start winning.

Once again, Redskins fans claim they have patience and could sit through a rebuild. That notion is extremely laughable.

That's an interesting point but isn't it a little difficult to compare teams 40 years apart....for a myriad of reasons?

[SittingBull]

In the history of the NFL 1 coach has took longer than 3 years to win, Bill Belichick. We don't know how the Belichick would have ended in Cleveland since ownership dropped the " moving to Baltimore" bomb during the season. Every coach I could find has turned their program around by year 3 tho regardless of how bad the previous regime was. Vinny was bad and I have been on the " Shanny had a huge mess to clean up" bus as well, think 3rd year is enough time to be out of the Vinny era.

Losing games was expected, how they are losing is what is troubling.

I think this points to some sort of dysfunction in the organization rather than Shanahan's ability to coach. You have to ask yourself why are we bad this year? I blame our secondary which is one of the worst in NFL history which I wish was an exaggeration. You can blame that on bad personnel moves and the salary cap penalty. Love or hate Landry we let go a first round pick in an area where we are extremely deficient. I guess you could blame Shanahan for not predicting this debacle. We all knew our secondary would be our weakness before the season started we just didn't expect it to be this bad.

Another reason is major injuries which you can attribute to a mixture of horrible luck, bad strength and conditioning and a horrible medical staff. Isn't this the second year in a row we've lost 5+ starters to season ending injuries? I'm probably being conservative with 5 because I'm too lazy to look it up. With two years in a row of devastating injuries you have to ask yourself if there is more going on than bad luck.

[DarkLink]

Keep Kyle and Mike S. for next season (Year 4) and bring in a new D Coordinator/ST Coach, get more pieces to the puzzle (couple on offense/rest on defense). Evaluate mid season to see where we are at. If we are in the same position as this year and previous years, bring in a new Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator in Year 5. If we don't improve in Year 4, what makes you think Year 5 will be any different from Year 1 - 4?

[KingGibbs]

That's great and all Diesel, but are you really comparing Shanny to Knoll? The Redskins to the Steelers? That era of football to today's era? You do realize that they had the greatest draft class of all-time, right?